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[LouG]

I like cheese.

Not orange I hope. My dream is a full wheel of Parmigiano. But I don't want another mortgage.

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[Dxm]

Starting, stopping any device is bad for it. Computer, car, electric organ, lights, AC.... Sometimes it's better to leave things on. Known fact.

 

[Frogdog1]

You had low revving V8's, we had inline, generally undersquare, 4's and 6's, which had much longer chains.
The only car I've owned that had cam chain issues was a Lada Niva, also known as the Fiatski, that needed chain adjustment every 3 months or so. Most issues I've heard of in Euro V6's and 8's seem to be cam timing units and chain guides.
At least we agree ASS is crap.

I have to take one exception. When American muscle cars became popular, they were over square push rod engines without VVT, electronics, and other things that prevent the revs of say, 7400rpm of the Coyote but they were over-square to even get the revs they did get. No big deal except being over-square enabled better combustion and the revving they did get back in the day.

 

[Frogdog1]

Keep us posted if it's not to much trouble, curious to see what kind of MPG you get..enjoy ur trip !!

OK, I'm at my just under 400 mile destination and got just a hair under 25mpg. I will have to admit though that the car did see over 100 several times, and 130 once as well as well some steady 90 for a little while right before North Carolina on the interstate. Not bad considering. I was also passing aggressively on the two lane twisties in N. Ga. I expect much better on the way back since I now know how the car handles on a decent highway trip and don't have a need to repeat to learn what it will do. I'll likely take it much easier on the way home. The throttle did see some very aggressive foot-work on the way at times but still got just a hair under 25mph.

As an aside, the car is kind of amazing on the interstates. Just think about speeding up or passing a lame truck driver that won't get over and it does it effortlessly. Tailgaters get left behind not to return, LOL! Return home report forthcoming. It's a very fun car on the highways. I did get some heads up on po po's between Waze and the little black box.

 

[Frogdog1]

Hahahahahaha - a simple thank you will do....

Why do Ford sell the part then?

System START / STOP pump, FORD 10R60 10R80 HL3P-7P086-DB from FORD – Buy Now for $94.5 USD

10R80 automatic start / stop transmissions are equipped with an auxiliary transmission fluid pump.
This electronic pump is activated before stopping the engine; allowing the transmission to remain "engaged" during standstill. This allows a quick response to engine restart and instant resupply as the transmission is already in gear

And literally the same Google search:

Frequent engine starts and stops can put extra stress on the starter motor, battery, and even engine components like the timing chain and bearings, although manufacturers have designed these parts to handle higher usage.

Your simple logic is just plain wrong

Tell ya what, you do what you want with your Ford, and I'll do what I want with my Ford. And, on behalf of American ingenuity, you have your little S/S toy to play with as well as better cars than ANYTHING to come out of UK from the automotive product perspective. You're welcome, LOL!

 

[LouG]

I have to take one exception. When American muscle cars became popular, they were over square push rod engines without VVT, electronics, and other things that prevent the revs of say, 7400rpm of the Coyote but they were over-square to even get the revs they did get. No big deal except being over-square enabled better combustion and the revving they did get back in the day.

Yes, I meant the Pommie and Aussie engines which were undersquare or square. From memory Ford UK were the first to go significantly oversquare with their crossflow engines

 

[D/\rK•650]

OK, I'm at my just under 400 mile destination and got just a hair under 25mpg. I will have to admit though that the car did see over 100 several times, and 130 once as well as well some steady 90 for a little while right before North Carolina on the interstate. Not bad considering. I was also passing aggressively on the two lane twisties in N. Ga. I expect much better on the way back since I now know how the car handles on a decent highway trip and don't have a need to repeat to learn what it will do. I'll likely take it much easier on the way home. The throttle did see some very aggressive foot-work on the way at times but still got just a hair under 25mph.

As an aside, the car is kind of amazing on the interstates. Just think about speeding up or passing a lame truck driver that won't get over and it does it effortlessly. Tailgaters get left behind not to return, LOL! Return home report forthcoming. It's a very fun car on the highways. I did get some heads up on po po's between Waze and the little black box.

Nice !

 

[AZ_Ryan]

OK, I'm at my just under 400 mile destination and got just a hair under 25mpg. I will have to admit though that the car did see over 100 several times, and 130 once as well as well some steady 90 for a little while right before North Carolina on the interstate. Not bad considering. I was also passing aggressively on the two lane twisties in N. Ga. I expect much better on the way back since I now know how the car handles on a decent highway trip and don't have a need to repeat to learn what it will do. I'll likely take it much easier on the way home. The throttle did see some very aggressive foot-work on the way at times but still got just a hair under 25mph.

As an aside, the car is kind of amazing on the interstates. Just think about speeding up or passing a lame truck driver that won't get over and it does it effortlessly. Tailgaters get left behind not to return, LOL! Return home report forthcoming. It's a very fun car on the highways. I did get some heads up on po po's between Waze and the little black box.

Glad to know the real reason behind that radar detector. I didn't buy the "I don't speed comment" awhile back.

 

[LouG]

Yeah, "I just use the detector to remind me if I'm speeding" line. They just leave out the "in case there's a cop around" bit.
But, they've saved me so many times, they've paid for themselves many times over.

 

[Katzenjammer]

The Start/Stop has never been triggered in my 2024 GT. Not sure if it could be because of the climate here (but there are cool days in the winter that require heat, not A/C) or a missed recall to erase a "bug" in the programming that stops it from working. Anyway, after reading all the conflicting opinions, I have decided to include setting it to "off" in my custom mode. I wonder if it will start working in "Normal" mode after some future software update.

I drive very infrequently in city stop and go traffic.
My typical trip is 10 to 20 miles round trip (occasionally longer), the shorter ones with surface streets outbound and freeway return, longer ones with freeway both ways and some surface streets at the far end.

My cumulative MPG is 21.2 after 4824 miles.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

The Start/Stop has never been triggered in my 2024 GT. Not sure if it could be because of the climate here (but there are cool days in the winter that require heat, not A/C) or a missed recall to erase a "bug" in the programming that stops it from working. Anyway, after reading all the conflicting opinions, I have decided to include setting it to "off" in my custom mode. I wonder if it will start working in "Normal" mode after some future software update.

I drive very infrequently in city stop and go traffic.
My typical trip is 10 to 20 miles round trip (occasionally longer), the shorter ones with surface streets outbound and freeway return, longer ones with freeway both ways and some surface streets at the far end.

My cumulative MPG is 21.2 after 4824 miles.

Your '24 has ASS? When was your build date?

 

[dusman59]

I think job 2 2024's had SS. Mine was built 12/14/23 job one no SS.

 

[Katzenjammer]

Your '24 has ASS? When was your build date?

I have to check. It was purhased in early May. The on/off button and "OFF" light works.

 

[Gregs24]

Tell ya what, you do what you want with your Ford, and I'll do what I want with my Ford. And, on behalf of American ingenuity, you have your little S/S toy to play with as well as better cars than ANYTHING to come out of UK from the automotive product perspective. You're welcome, LOL!

I think your local optician stays open late on Friday night, best you pay a visit

 

[Gregs24]

Starting, stopping any device is bad for it. Computer, car, electric organ, lights, AC.... Sometimes it's better to leave things on. Known fact.

Complete and utter rubbish - totally different technology, design and engineering.

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