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Yeah, I didn't find any microphones for ESE front or rear, looked through the diagrams. I wouldn't be surprised if its just digitized sound being played through the speakers, or pre-programmed.
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Yeah, I didn't find any microphones for ESE front or rear, looked through the diagrams. I wouldn't be surprised if its just digitized sound being played through the speakers, or pre-programmed.
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or ese is the active exhaust version ? Enhanced capability of same function. If preprogrammed it would be easily detectable with the resonator delete or even resonator increase (as in add more baffling) and the faux would then increase since it can’t detect the variance ?
 

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or ese is the active exhaust version ? Enhanced capability of same function. If preprogrammed it would be easily detectable with the resonator delete or even resonator increase (as in add more baffling) and the faux would then increase since it can’t detect the variance ?
If ESE was there, I'd see it. I went through both ecoboost and GT diagrams. Didn't look at DH or GTD, though I could.
 
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The EB vido shows that the sounds are played through the speaker without the engine running -> proof they are fully artificial.
Their frequency is linked to RPM, maybe in steps as the video shows, or continuously.
Highly likely that its volume depends also on the engine load (torque) and/or what the ANC mics inside the cabin catch as noise level.
I'm not Einstein, but think my university degree in mechanical engineering is not needed either to say it's safe to assume that this is how it works.
 


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The EB vido shows that the sounds are played through the speaker without the engine running -> proof they are fully artificial.
Their frequency is linked to RPM, maybe in steps as the video shows, or continuously.
Highly likely that its volume depends also on the engine load (torque) and/or what the ANC mics inside the cabin catch as noise level.
I'm not Einstein, but think my university degree in mechanical engineering is not needed either to say it's safe to assume that this is how it works.
I haven't even watched the video, I'm at work.

But yeah, came to the same conclusion, artificial.

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The EB vido shows that the sounds are played through the speaker without the engine running -> proof they are fully artificial.
Their frequency is linked to RPM, maybe in steps as the video shows, or continuously.
Highly likely that its volume depends also on the engine load (torque) and/or what the ANC mics inside the cabin catch as noise level.
I'm not Einstein, but think my university degree in mechanical engineering is not needed either to say it's safe to assume that this is how it works.
It's not documented on the GT, so no proof.

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I was just reading this….Read his bottom paragraph RE: ANC. I put it in bold myself to make it easier to find.

Heavily edited this original post to reflect the final build and process.

Hi all. I've been closely reading the various threads on here about modifications to the audio systems, specifically the subwoofers, and watching anything I can on Youtube. That said, I've never done any work on a car audio system before, so I was a little nervous as I get ready to tackle this. The below reflects the end results of my research and steps I took to install a subwoofer on a GT Premium with the 9-speaker system (not B&O and no factory subwoofer).

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So, as you can see, my basic plan was:
1. Tap the wiring harness going to the rear speakers, and feed that into the Kicker KISLOC2 line output converter.
2. That goes to the amp, and amp to speaker.

I had originally planned to mount the amplifier to the subwoofer box with some rubber isolation washers, but I decided against that as I wanted to be able to remove the subwoofer from the trunk without having to disconnect the power and ground wires for the amp.

Power line from the battery to the amp was run through a gasket located behind the passenger-side wheel well. It was a bit of a pain to get in there; I took the tire off and opened up the cover for the wheel well, then used a utility knife to carefully slice an opening, then fed a wire hanger through and taped the power cable to it before pulling it back through the gasket.

The line output converter I'm using is the KISLOC2 LOC. It has a remote wire that will turn the amp on or off depending on whether there is power to the rear deck speakers, so that means I won't need to tap a fuse for on/off. Downside is apparently the mustang's rear deck speakers (perhaps all of them) power on when you approach the car with your keyfob, so there will be a few "thumps" from the subwoofer. I like to think of it as a heart beat. That said, I've confirmed the LOC and the subwoofer do turn off after a couple minutes you turn off and walk away from the car.

Update 6/29/24: I swapped out the cruddy Autotek amp for an Alpine and the sound is much improved. I did finally notice the buzz that some other folks have reported while cruising, so I loaded up Forscan and took a look. Using this super helpful post (thank you @roket ). I was 99% certain the buzzing sound was coming from Active Noise Cancelation (ANC) because lots of folks have said the GTs don't have the fake engine noise piped in. Well, as it happens, my ANC value was already set to 0 but the Software ESE was set to 1 -- I was getting fake engine noise, and it was making the subwoofer buzz and hum under acceleration. After setting that value also to 0, no more buzz.

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I was just reading this….Read his bottom paragraph RE: ANC. I put it in bold myself to make it easier to find.
That is exactly what I already posted and described, also refering to others having had the same experience.
But maybe our commander "I know what other people hear better than they do" Zig will buy it now?

Probably not ...

You know that we are talking about frequencies in the hearing range?
Your AM radio method is for frequencies way above that.
 

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I think this whole discussion is useless now.

There is 1 group who tested and found out about it and another group who don't want to believe the truth because they stick with their believe that a V8 doesn't need that feature and that all the sound is natural.

I thought we are here on the forum to share facts and learn from it. But it seems that there are some people here who activly trying to deny something, not because they really believe what they are thinking, but because they don't want to believe the truth.

It's very confronting for some people to tell them the truth. They rather stay in their own fantasy bubble.

It's almost like I'm talking about religion instead of fake car sounds from the speaker.

Oh and people, those fake car sounds are on many other performance cars. Fake it till you make it.
 

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I thought we are here on the forum to share facts and learn from it. But it seems that there are some people here who activly trying to deny something, not because they really believe what they are thinking, but because they don't want to believe the truth.

It's almost like I'm talking about religion instead of fake car sounds from the speaker.
Just like the old VW forums.

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That is exactly what I already posted and described, also refering to others having had the same experience.
But maybe our commander "I know what other people hear better than they do" Zig will buy it now?

Probably not ...



You know that we are talking about frequencies in the hearing range?
Your AM radio method is for frequencies way above that.
Although that is a demonstration how to capture noise not heard. But oddly the noise that is claimed to be heard is unable to be recorded.
 
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I always liked your avatar picture, wondering if it shows you just having lost grip upon trying to pull the train.
But now I think it was the last moment before it ran over you and maybe the last moment before you became an internet troll. 😜

Btw, why don't you sue Ford for selling a car to you with a feature being advertised that isn't there?
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