Will s650 seats sit lower?

[codemanstang]

There seems to be some change in the stock leather seats. Will these sit lower? They look like they might be an inch with less foam in the seat? Anyone sat in both?

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[NS90]

Very little apparent change to seats other than trim and the addition of Vent to the Recaro Seats. Appears to sit at the same ride height as S550.

 

[Bikeman315]

No one knows yet as Ford hasn’t let a lot of folks behind the wheel. But there is supposed to be more room for a driver with a helmet. So right now it’s a maybe.

 

[Lidsoff]

The Tec sheet comparing both S550 and S650 is the same at 37.6 for head room. So I think not. Would be a waste to re design all seat for no reason anyhow.

 

[codemanstang]

The Tec sheet comparing both S550 and S650 is the same at 37.6 for head room. So I think not. Would be a waste to re design all seat for no reason anyhow.

Seats are often replaced for people that want lower center of gravity or just too tall to be comfortable. If ford wants the most track focused mustang ever those seats gotta go lower. Aftermarket seats work but you gotta fiddle with airbag sensors and then other factors. Would use be awesome if they did but thanks for the info. I wonder how they measure headroom? Floor to ceiling maybe? Idk but thanks for the info

 

[Lidsoff]

You might be right that its without the seats. From Ecoboost to the 350 and 500 its all the same measurement. There is no way that the 350/500 Recaros don't go lower because they both feel significantly lower than leather or cloth seats do. Comparing the 2024 and 2020 technical sheets I have a thought they didn't even account for anything other than the standard lazyboy seats.

 

[Bikeman315]

The Tec sheet comparing both S550 and S650 is the same at 37.6 for head room. So I think not. Would be a waste to re design all seat for no reason anyhow.

Ford has already told us that there will be more headroom in the S650 for race helmet clearance so i'm not sure about those numbers. They either raised the roof, lowered the seats, or a combination of both.

 

[Mustang FX1]

They either raised the roof, lowered the seats, or a combination of both.

I hope they didn't raise the roof.

 

[Lidsoff]

Ford has already told us that there will be more headroom in the S650 for race helmet clearance so i'm not sure about those numbers. They either raised the roof, lowered the seats, or a combination of both.

They could of went fuck it and copy pasted the numbers. They are also people.

 

[codemanstang]

I hope they didn't raise the roof.

there is one article I read saying that as well. Don’t know if I really believe it. Would be cheaper to lower the seat than redesign the roof but who knows. I’ve also compared legroom specs between s550 and s650 showing a loss of a few inches but I think the specs are off cause I don’t see that happening

 

[OppoLock]

Ford has already told us that there will be more headroom in the S650 for race helmet clearance so i'm not sure about those numbers. They either raised the roof, lowered the seats, or a combination of both.

I remember reading something on reveal day that claimed that Ford raised the roofline, I just don’t see it

But considering that the seats are the same, it’s not like they’d have a different H point for the driver and that sets the reference point when measuring headroom in a car, so it has to be the roofline

 

[IceGamer]

there is one article I read saying that as well. Don’t know if I really believe it. Would be cheaper to lower the seat than redesign the roof but who knows. I’ve also compared legroom specs between s550 and s650 showing a loss of a few inches but I think the specs are off cause I don’t see that happening

I think it's pretty safe to say that Ford didn't change much regarding the overall shape of the car. Since the seats will be the same and quite a few interior parts will be the same as well I'm sure Ford didn't change much if not anything at all regarding the seating position. It would cost money and hardly anyone is arguing in your favour so... Ford didn't change the seating position nor did they change the roof ;)

 

[OppoLock]

I think it's pretty safe to say that Ford didn't change much regarding the overall shape of the car. Since the seats will be the same and quite a few interior parts will be the same as well I'm sure Ford didn't change much if not anything at all regarding the seating position. It would cost money and hardly anyone is arguing in your favour so... Ford didn't change the seating position nor did they change the roof ;)

I found the original press release from Ford and it sounds like there’s some fuckery with the wording here:

The roofline is optimized for driver entry and exit without removing their helmet on the track

Source: https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2022/09/14/2024-ford-mustang-reveal.html

Nothing about interior headroom and I have zero clue what they could realistically do to back up those claims

Edit: after googling key words, it looks like a bunch of publications paraphrased this by saying Ford “optimized the roofline for drivers wearing a helmet” which could easily be misinterpreted as having added additional interior headroom

 

[Mustang FX1]

I found the original press release from Ford and it sounds like there’s some fuckery with the wording here:

The roofline is optimized for driver entry and exit without removing their helmet on the track

What does "driver entry" even mean and how do you "optimize" it without changing the door or roofline... sounds like marketing hype to emphasis track use. We'll know for sure when we can compare s550 s650 side by side.

 

[NegativeMultiplier]

Anyone sat in both?

I suspect even if anyone here has they're probably under NDA and can't say anything for fear of financial penalty, to put it lightly.

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