Strike

[wilkinda65]

Cool stories bro!

They have nothing to do with my post nor the ongoing strike...

You made the comment about Stockholm Syndrome....bruh

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[wilkinda65]

The Dodge Forum guys are all up in arms over the strike as well. They say Ford cried about going broke but caved in to get a deal.

 

[dfwford]

They say Ford cried about going broke but caved in to get a deal.

So in other words, the Strike is working exactly as intended...

 

[dfwford]

Interesting...

Ford halts work on $3.5 billion EV battery plant in Michigan

https://www.crainsdetroit.com/automotive/ford-stops-work-35-billion-ev-battery-plant-michigan

 

[friscoaggie]

Interesting...

Ford halts work on $3.5 billion EV battery plant in Michigan

https://www.crainsdetroit.com/automotive/ford-stops-work-35-billion-ev-battery-plant-michigan

That's all about China.

 

[dfwford]

That's all about China.

The UAW has also been pushing hard to unionize the battery plants with their new contract.

So the timing of this is surely not a coincidence.

 

[wilkinda65]

So in other words, the Strike is working exactly as intended...

Not worried about it one way or the other as far as the strike itself. I have my 2023 Dodge Charger SPWB and my 2024 Mustang GT Premium is on a railcar.

 

[wilkinda65]

So if there is a strike… Are we expecting a price increase on MSRP?

You can be sure the manufacturers will pass along the increase in cost to the consumers

 

[dfwford]

UAW again threatens to expand strikes at Detroit automakers if progress isn’t made by Friday

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/27/uaw-threatens-to-expand-strikes-again-at-gm-ford-stellantis.html

 

[Skye]

Regarding a pause on the battery plant, this is an article from NPR, two days ago.

Unions are one consideration. Another, it seems is the locals weren't all that into the new plant.

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/26/1201...chigan-battery-plant-contract-talks-uaw-union

I've read more and more of EV and battery production by several auto makers further south. It's cheaper cost-wise. More central to the US population, especially when shipping heavy items. Ohio, Mississippi rivers close by. Unions are not as well established in these newer areas, which is at least one reason for the discussion involving these plants now.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/econom...-battery-factories-and-an-auto-assembly-plant

 

[dfwford]

Regarding a pause on the battery plant, this is an article from NPR, two days ago.

Unions are one consideration. Another, it seems is the locals weren't all that into the new plant.

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/26/1201...chigan-battery-plant-contract-talks-uaw-union

I've read more and more of EV and battery production by several auto makers further south. It's cheaper cost-wise. More central to the US population, especially when shipping heavy items. Ohio, Mississippi rivers close by. Unions are not as well established in these newer areas, which is at least one reason for the discussion involving these plants now.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/econom...-battery-factories-and-an-auto-assembly-plant

I don't think the concern of "locals" has anything to do with the project being on hold

Companies and elected official collude to ram through unpopular developments all the time, and Ford already has all the required approvals in place to proceed

 

[Desmodeous]

You can be sure the manufacturers will pass along the increase in cost to the consumers

You misspelled UAW there.

 

[wilkinda65]

You misspelled UAW there.

The manufacturers will pass long the increase to consumers for what they are giving to the UAW. The cost of manufacturing the car just went up when the strike ends.

 

[Skye]

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/28/uaw...rs-grow-frustrated-as-new-deadline-looms.html

"The UAW is expected to announce additional strike targets at 10 a.m. ET [Friday, 29 Sep 23]..."

There were additional details and comments within the article, none of which were positive. Any hoped for breakthrough continues to appear distant.

 

[dfwford]

The manufacturers will pass long the increase to consumers for what they are giving to the UAW.

Maybe, maybe not. That's a pretty narrow-minded conclusion.

Demand elasticity is still a thing. They can't just arbitrarily raise prices too much if it makes their cars less affordable than the foreign/non-union competition, pricing them out of consideration for consumers.

There are many other ways to skin a cat. They can also:

• Cut salaried workers.
• Reduce future R&D / Capital Investment (such as cancelling that battery plant in Michigan).
• Reduce the benefits / bonuses / salaries of salaried workers.
• Shift administrative functions and production to non-union / low cost of doing business regions.
• Negotiate deeper discounts / better terms with their suppliers.

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