Our S650 HP compared to the C8.

[Will2]

You then multiply those by the torque of the engine at whatever RPM.

Let's look at 3500rpm, the Mustang has 335 * 16.69 = 5,591, and the C8 has 415 * 14.23 = 5,909
6,000rpm, the Mustang has 300 * 16.69 = 5,007 , and the C8 has 410 * 14.23 = 5,834

The engine in the C8 has gobs more torque but the C8 is geared a lot lower.
So even with less actual torque at the engine, the Mustang can make up for it with more RPM and gearing.

Thanks for the detailed write-up!

EDIT: misread your graph and calculations. I will review this later in more detail.

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[Junkyard Dog]

Gears give torque multiplication.

 

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[Junkyard Dog]

https://www.sci.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~kammet/gear_notes.pdf

"Thus, we can multiply the torque supplied at the motor shaft (the input) by the gear ratio to find the torque at the wheel axle (the output)."


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[LouG]

Numbers don't tell you everything. Yes the DH engine is rated good, but it just needs so much rpm to deliver. The C8s LT2 bascially delivers most of it's torque across most of the rpm band and the low end torque really pushes the car so good.

Here in Germany lots of people use 100 - 200 kmh as a measurement you can pull of on the Autobahn. It's about 62mph to 124mph. The EU Dark Horse runs about 11.0s. I did a 7.9s in my EU C8 Stingray. Both EU models are a tuned down compared to US hp numbers. So even for US rated engines without GPF there is no way a DH would come close.

Imho if you want to compare the dark horse to another car, it's the M2. It's slightly more expansive and slightly faster. But totally in reach if you go for slight modifications

I did see AutoTop NL did 10.1 for a Dark Horse and 10.7 for a convertible. You could take maybe .5 secs off for US spec.

 

[Deleted member 62674]

Anyone driven both a GT (not Dark Horse) and a base C8?

Wondering how the low-end torque and handling feel compares between them. Missing my old Camaro LT1's instant low-end torque in basically any gear. C8 supposedly has more torque than the LT1, but not sure if it feels that way.

I have a 23 C8 Z51 and 24 GT parked in my garage. My opinion is the C8 starts delivering torque at lower rpm and pulls consistently through much of its range where the GT takes a little more winding and pulls strong on the upper end. Handling is definitely the C8’s strength as it feels more planted and predictable in hard cornerIng. I’d like to drive a Dark Horse to experience a Mustang with a more track oriented suspension. Either way they’re both great cars….pick one…buy one…enjoy!

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