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[robvas]

That’s not my question. It’s how to switch when e85 is not available (not many stations around me have e85 and 93 needs to blended from 100). So if I fill up on a road trip and I’m down to 1/4 tank, it’s essentially e30. Then after another refill, it’s back to 91, how to switch between them.

Since this is my daily, I’m thinking this isn’t for me. Maybe the Ford procal if/when it comes out for 91+ (since I’m already blending/running 93).

When you fill back up with 93/91 (and that's mostly what you have in the tank), load the 93 tune

When you fill back up with e85 (and you only have a couple gallons of 93 or whatever) load the e85 tune

I mean if you really want you can run the car for a couple minutes to clear the lines out before changing but it's pretty simple

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[broncoboy22]

I understand you are selling a product and want to make money, but this is the exact reason why I'm not jumping in from the beginning.

I made a legit comment, especially since this tuning is super new and you decided to jump straight to the conclusion that tuning is maybe not for me.

This is how non professionals react when somebody is critical about their product.
Being critical does not mean I'm bashing a product, but I do understand you don't like people who are critical, because a business runs on people who follow others blindly without knowing what it does, how safe it is, etc.

I'm not jumping on a hypetrain until I see real numbers and real experiences from consumers who are not sponsored by businesses that sell this.

You might be being a bit sensitive. Seemed like he answered your question sufficiently

 

[ZXMustang]

I understand you are selling a product and want to make money, but this is the exact reason why I'm not jumping in from the beginning.

I made a legit comment, especially since this tuning is super new and you decided to jump straight to the conclusion that tuning is maybe not for me.

This is how non professionals react when somebody is critical about their product.
Being critical does not mean I'm bashing a product, but I do understand you don't like people who are critical, because a business runs on people who follow others blindly without knowing what it does, how safe it is, etc.

I'm not jumping on a hypetrain until I see real numbers and real experiences from consumers who are not sponsored by businesses that sell this.

no, I think it’s in reverse here. Folks like you are already expecting to be disappointed. And in my experience as a professional, it’s easier to just let you off the hook to start with then have to deal with you for a week at a time and have you eventually tell me you want a refund because you’re just not happy you’re not getting your expectations met. I hate to break it to you, but the consumer isn’t always right. And me being a professional, I can identify those situations where it just doesn’t make sense. I’m actually doing you a favor because nobody is going to be able to make you happy. Your best bet is to just get a supercharger with a Whipple tune and then you’ll be happy. I’m not trying to be condescending or rude here. I’m just being completely honest. If you wanna take that as me being unprofessional, then I saved us all a bunch of time and money by being unprofessional.

 

[GrabThatBlue]

no, I think it’s in reverse here. Folks like you are already expecting to be disappointed. And in my experience as a professional, it’s easier to just let you off the hook to start with then have to deal with you for a week at a time and have you eventually tell me you want a refund because you’re just not happy you’re not getting your expectations met. I hate to break it to you, but the consumer isn’t always right. And me being a professional, I can identify those situations where it just doesn’t make sense. I’m actually doing you a favor because nobody is going to be able to make you happy. Your best bet is to just get a supercharger with a Whipple tune and then you’ll be happy. I’m not trying to be condescending or rude here. I’m just being completely honest. If you wanna take that as me being unprofessional, then I saved us all a bunch of time and money by being unprofessional.

You exactly confirmed what I said earlier.

 

[Zig]

How can a 400+ HP car feels like a whole new car if it just adds around 20hp more?

I'm a bit sceptic, especially when tuners make this statement. I'm waiting to see what others say and when the real numbers are out.

It’s like running on 7 cylinders instead of 8.

 

[Zig]

I think this answered one of my questions - what if you’re on a road trip and can only get 91, how do you switch from e85 to 91 tune.

Follow on question, at what point do you switch if it’s 4 gals of e85 and 12 gallons of 91, which if my math is right is e30? So instead of ghost tune, having e30 just in case. Or can the car adjust for this automatically (AFR, timing, etc.)

Where I live there is no 93 (need to make it from 100 and 91), there is e85, but it may not be e85 all the time.

Trying to see how to live with a tuned car as a daily.

Would be kinda nice, be on a road trip, get down to a quarter tank, fill up at the local yocal but gogas was no mo so just got regular, select normal mode and whah lah, sport is reserved for 93 and custom is e85/custom but for some reason I don’t think it works like that.

 

[DarkMatterGrey]

Would be kinda nice, be on a road trip, get down to a quarter tank, fill up at the local yocal but gogas was no mo so just got regular, select normal mode and whah lah, sport is reserved for 93 and custom is e85/custom but for some reason I don’t think it works like that.

Yeah, I don’t think it works like that either. I’m already on a stock tune blending 91 ($4 per gal) and 100 ($10 per gal) to get to 93, pretty much always in sport mode. That’s why I was wondering where and how readily the gas can be changed given that E85 is hard to come by here.

 

[A.alansari]

How dose the tune work with the driving modes like normal sport drag dose the the tune enhance them all or is it tied to 1 of them and the others will be like stock?

 

[ChitownStang]

We can do that for $450 I believe and then the price of the tunes are $500. That’s 91/93, e85 and ghost cam. but this is only with purchase of tuning from me. Otherwise it’s $499 like everyone else.

https://www.p1tuners.com//_paylink/AZf1cxwM

Sorry, I read further and see you don’t have Flex tune.
I had no issues running Wengerd’s Flex tune for 3 years on my Mach 1.
Really makes it easy to switch fuel.
It’s just a fill up that triggers it and if your worried about fuel in the line then just top it off

 

[robvas]

I understand you are selling a product and want to make money, but this is the exact reason why I'm not jumping in from the beginning.

I made a legit comment, especially since this tuning is super new and you decided to jump straight to the conclusion that tuning is maybe not for me.

This is how non professionals react when somebody is critical about their product.
Being critical does not mean I'm bashing a product, but I do understand you don't like people who are critical, because a business runs on people who follow others blindly without knowing what it does, how safe it is, etc.

I'm not jumping on a hypetrain until I see real numbers and real experiences from consumers who are not sponsored by businesses that sell this.

Livernois got 15hp on a GT

There may be more as they learn the ins and outs but that's about right for a pump gas tune

Sure there are also transmission enhancements as well as tricks like the throttle sensitivity or whatever you want to call it. But $800-900 for 15hp? And possibly voiding your warranty etc?

 

[GrabThatBlue]

Livernois got 15hp on a GT

There may be more as they learn the ins and outs but that's about right for a pump gas tune

Sure there are also transmission enhancements as well as tricks like the throttle sensitivity or whatever you want to call it. But $800-900 for 15hp? And possibly voiding your warranty etc?

Yeah that's how I think too. 15hp for 1000 bucks is nuts. People were waiting for this moment, and the moment is here. But looking at the facts instead of feelings, it's not that special. But yeah, companies try to hype things up by tuning an already modded car to say that the tune bumped it 50hp

 

[robvas]

I'd like to know how much differences there are tuning the S650 vs S550

Because you can "buy a tune" right now, but when do you get it? And how complete will it be? The top speed limiter was going to be an 'update' from HPtuners right? Are tuners going to work ont here for a week or a month? Are people going to be guinea pigs?

 

[ZXMustang]

I'd like to know how much differences there are tuning the S650 vs S550

Because you can "buy a tune" right now, but when do you get it? And how complete will it be? The top speed limiter was going to be an 'update' from HPtuners right? Are tuners going to work ont here for a week or a month? Are people going to be guinea pigs?

somebody has to be a guinea pig. In our case, it’s me. I have a $55,000 premium Mustang with 1000 miles on it that I have been absolutely beating the ever loving shit out of. I’ve been data logging flashing, tuning testing and to the point almost breaking this car just so I have something that works going forward so you do not have to be the guinea pig.

And maybe 15 hp on 93 but it’s a lot more on 85 which is what the majority of folks will want. And even on the GEN three cars it’s the same price for a custom tune. I don’t understand what you think the last GEN cars cost. The RTD prices are the same. The credits are the same, and the tune costs are basically the same.

If you want the car to drive the way it should drive and make all the power it can make on the given fuel that you’re going to use that you need a custom tune. I guess I tend to forget that a lot of of the folks from this forum probably never owned a previous GEN car and don’t have any experience with what custom tuning actually is and does.

Remember, no matter what you do going forward for performance either engine or transmission you will need a custom tune. This is the base and foundation for everything else that you would want to put on this car to make more power. This is what people have been screaming for for going on two years getting super upset that they either have to gut the car to make it go fast or they have to buy a Whipple at $10,000.

If you’re looking at this situation like oh my God $1000 is too much for 15 hp then once again custom tuning isn’t for you. This is really simple stuff here. I don’t need $200 sunglasses. I don’t see the value in them but somebody else does. Does that make the $200 sunglasses wrong maybe for me but not for the people who want those and are willing to pay for it because they want quality sunglasses with high technology lenses.

To round this out, I’m happy to help out anybody that wants a custom tune. And I can assure you $1000 get you way more than just 15 peak horsepower. It’s easy to downplay what you think you’re getting when you’re not willing to pay for it.

 

[Dragster]

How can a 400+ HP car feels like a whole new car if it just adds around 20hp more?

I'm a bit sceptic, especially when tuners make this statement. I'm waiting to see what others say and when the real numbers are out.

As others have said, the tune is giving you more than just peak hp. Typically, they're getting more hp and torque throughout the rev range. The Ford Performance tune for the S550 for 2015-2017 cars also allowed no-lift shifting (which wasn't standard on the car at the time), allowed for different rear gears, changes throttle response, and shift logic for automatics. The peak gains were only 13 hp and 16 lb-ft, but the tune gained 40 lb-ft at 1500 rpm. Is that worth what it costs? That's up to the individual.

By the way, just changing the throttle response CAN make a car feel like it has a lot more power. That's why pedal commanders and the like are so popular. Many modern drive by wire cars can feel a little sluggish compared to older, throttle cable actuated cars.

 

[Joe_Stang]

Ofcourse you arent going to get a lot of gains with a bone stock car (Naturally aspirated as well)?! Like duh people. Add some headers, e85 etc and go from there. Also, most of you will spend $500 plus on a cold air intake or hundreds on a spoiler.....talk about things that arent worth it

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