Gogoggansgo
Well-Known Member
Time for a history lesson
1) making a warranty safe tune isn’t that hard at all really most of the aftermarket tuners damn near do it already if your stock and you don’t wanna go hunting for crazy records hahaha
2) the hard part is getting it carb certified it takes 6 months to 18 month sometimes longer, the 2018 mustang gt stage 1 tune took almost two years to come out and by then the aftermarket had the market cornered so the ford performance tune wasn’t really a hot seller. Previous on the 2015 mustangs ford racing “before it was ford performance” had that cool project to be the first group of people to get the Ecoboost into the 12s, N/A coyote 11s and boosted coyote 10s. This was early 2015 if y’all remember point being ford performance hasn’t really been pushing for alot of aftermarket tunes and support. They even canceled all the cool Gt350 parts like the “track key” 90 and 100mm throttle bodies all canceled because of cost overruns
3) lastly they had an interesting history of messing up there tunes out of the gate i got 3 good examples none of which hurt the cars but ended having to have updates or fixes after the fact
-11-14 mustang GT ford racing tune i personally ran it back in the day and it was a hot mess the big issue was the knock sensors would constantly go off because they retained the stock tunes god awful way it would flatten out the torque curve by leaning out too 14:1 at part throttle instead of closing the throttle body or pulling timing. For those that made it this far that’s why cylinder 8 was going out because a lot of the aftermarket tuners would either turn the knock sensors off or desensitize them, add timing and boom she done
-focus st frpp tune, boy this was a hot mess they had to recall the memory sticks and give out free updates to fix a god awful flat spot past 5000rpm the power curve would tank below stock, i DONT recall off hand exactly what the issue was, probably too aggressive on catalyst protection but they got it fixed
- track key and it’s loopy idle this was a huge problem because carb voided there tuning because you’re not supposed to change cam timing to that effect because it was messing with emissions. If you go back and find some of the pre production track key videos they had a very aggressive almost ghost cam idle to them but it was passing the sniff test. So they had to completely redo the tune and owners had to wait almost a year to get their cars flashed while people had put money down. It was an interesting time to be on the forums hahah
i like ford performance parts but unless they’re the only game in town or they do stage 2 and 3 kits again properly i wouldn’t waste my money IMO
1) making a warranty safe tune isn’t that hard at all really most of the aftermarket tuners damn near do it already if your stock and you don’t wanna go hunting for crazy records hahaha
2) the hard part is getting it carb certified it takes 6 months to 18 month sometimes longer, the 2018 mustang gt stage 1 tune took almost two years to come out and by then the aftermarket had the market cornered so the ford performance tune wasn’t really a hot seller. Previous on the 2015 mustangs ford racing “before it was ford performance” had that cool project to be the first group of people to get the Ecoboost into the 12s, N/A coyote 11s and boosted coyote 10s. This was early 2015 if y’all remember point being ford performance hasn’t really been pushing for alot of aftermarket tunes and support. They even canceled all the cool Gt350 parts like the “track key” 90 and 100mm throttle bodies all canceled because of cost overruns
3) lastly they had an interesting history of messing up there tunes out of the gate i got 3 good examples none of which hurt the cars but ended having to have updates or fixes after the fact
-11-14 mustang GT ford racing tune i personally ran it back in the day and it was a hot mess the big issue was the knock sensors would constantly go off because they retained the stock tunes god awful way it would flatten out the torque curve by leaning out too 14:1 at part throttle instead of closing the throttle body or pulling timing. For those that made it this far that’s why cylinder 8 was going out because a lot of the aftermarket tuners would either turn the knock sensors off or desensitize them, add timing and boom she done
-focus st frpp tune, boy this was a hot mess they had to recall the memory sticks and give out free updates to fix a god awful flat spot past 5000rpm the power curve would tank below stock, i DONT recall off hand exactly what the issue was, probably too aggressive on catalyst protection but they got it fixed
- track key and it’s loopy idle this was a huge problem because carb voided there tuning because you’re not supposed to change cam timing to that effect because it was messing with emissions. If you go back and find some of the pre production track key videos they had a very aggressive almost ghost cam idle to them but it was passing the sniff test. So they had to completely redo the tune and owners had to wait almost a year to get their cars flashed while people had put money down. It was an interesting time to be on the forums hahah
i like ford performance parts but unless they’re the only game in town or they do stage 2 and 3 kits again properly i wouldn’t waste my money IMO
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