Ford Says It Makes 500 hp, Four Different Dynos Give Four Different Results

[robvas]

I just looked up BMW M2 CS and they’re 110-120k plus

we’re talking DHSC money, that’s the comp, not a 50-60k GT/DH

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[Dave2013M3]

I just looked up BMW M2 CS and they’re 110-120k plus

we’re talking DHSC money, that’s the comp, not a 50-60k GT/DH

You don't have to get a CS, a regular M2 will beat a DH or GT. A base M2 runs $69K...

A 6spd manual will run 0-60 in 3.8 seconds and do the 1/4mile in 12.1@120mph...

 

[Garcia172]

Very true.
Example, an M2 with less HP pulls hard on a Mustang in many videos
Also I’ve seen it dyno’s at advertised HP

because the M2's have a LOT more torque. TQ beats HP.

 

[Zig]

because the M2's have a LOT more torque. TQ beats HP.

Well not really, hp is the application of torque. Power to weight plus ability to apply wins.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

 

[LouG]

because the M2's have a LOT more torque. TQ beats HP.

Torque is HP. Torque is the work done. HP is torque over time.
Torque x Revs / 5252 = HP

 

[Garcia172]

Well not really, hp is the application of torque. Power to weight plus ability to apply wins.

Looking at dyno charts.. the M2's peak TQ is at about 2700 rpms. The DH peak TQ is about about 5000rpms.

BMW has the OEM turbos spooling up pretty quickly to get the peak TQ so early.

 

[robvas]

Not going to below 5k rpm drag racing them

 

[Garcia172]

Not going to below 5k rpm drag racing them

Launching at 5000rpms with a manual (that's what we're talking about here) will just light up the tires (stock tires here). So yes.. TQ below 5000rpms matters.

There are a few people here that run these cars (manual trans GT/DH) at the drag trip... I'm sure they could be very specific.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

You don't have to get a CS, a regular M2 will beat a DH or GT. A base M2 runs $69K...

A 6spd manual will run 0-60 in 3.8 seconds and do the 1/4mile in 12.1@120mph...

So the regular M2 is only 473 hp. It does 11.6 at 124 mph, so, yeah, it would kick a stock Dark Horse's ass.

It does appear to be a couple of hundred pounds lighter, but even considering that, the mph shows the 473 hp is underrated. 3755 pounds at 473 horsepower is 117mph, not 124. That is flying and indicates a lot more horsepower than the rating.

A lot more. Like not even freaking close more.

Are they running that kind of mph in the real world? Is BMW above giving a ringer to Car and Driver, like Jim Wangers did with the Pontiac GTO magazine test car?

 

[ZXMustang]

I think they put the power down way better than any mustang. Ive seen a new M2 get down and its impressive.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

Apparently the 11.6 was run without launch control, which they could not get to activate. And it was on Michelin PS4S tires.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a69679352/2025-bmw-m2-test/

 

[Zig]

Looking at dyno charts.. the M2's peak TQ is at about 2700 rpms. The DH peak TQ is about about 5000rpms.

BMW has the OEM turbos spooling up pretty quickly to get the peak TQ so early.

Dyno charts don’t run races. Don’t forget the rest of the statement.

 

[robvas]

So the regular M2 is only 473 hp. It does 11.6 at 124 mph, so, yeah, it would kick a stock Dark Horse's ass.

Are they running that kind of mph in the real world?

Yea, guys are posting their stock times for M2/3/4's on the forums

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2165356

(very first post on that is tuned but read the replies)

 

[Junkyard Dog]

Yea, guys are posting their stock times for M2/3/4's on the forums

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2165356

(very first post on that is tuned but read the replies)

Damn. Makes me want to buy one . . .

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