Do you really have a question unique to S650?

[Cz_Ziemniak]

When I started driving mine and noticed it has some “character” to it. In the mornings sometimes 1-2 is stiff.

I've spent so much time in old British cars that my entire perception of what a 'good' transmission is has been completely skewed. In my eyes, TVR's and Jaguars are peak.

So feeling an MT-82 for the first time had me convinced its one of the nicest manuals around. I do still think its alright, in all honesty. 100% better than any Subaru or Toyota I've used in recent memory.

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[350 Feet]

I know little of British cars. When I was a teen I had a ‘66 Mustang. My best friend somehow got into Triumphs(TR4). All I can remember is that his hood was always up, and something was either broken, shorted-out or leaking. Jags always had beautiful lines, but again, I more often see them parked vs. on road.
That is my vast knowledge of Brit cars.

 

[Cz_Ziemniak]

God I love TR4's. Spectacular little cars, honest to god. I have a complete factory service manual for one of those in absolutely beautiful condition.

But yeah, grounds love to go out on them, and a lot of the electricals are fussy. The upside is that its all very easy to fix up and tracking electrical issues is super straightforward.

I had a Spitfire for a little while, was absolutely butchered by the previous owners, but even still it was a riot. Loved driving that car up until I was T-boned by a Jeep. Even still I kept driving it for another two years, as the Jeep was so tall that it missed all the important chassis stuff - just knackered the bodywork instead.

 

[LouG]

Luigi,
Do you guys(gals) have an active “Cars and coffee” down there? My ignorance assumes this, but every culture is different. It’s a great way to meet up.

Not that I've heard of here.
We have various car clubs for specific brands, and there are a few bike groups for rides and such.
There are classic US car clubs too.
There probably is a Mustang one somewhere, being an iconic car. I'll have to do a more thorough search.

 

[LouG]

I know little of British cars. When I was a teen I had a ‘66 Mustang. My best friend somehow got into Triumphs(TR4). All I can remember is that his hood was always up, and something was either broken, shorted-out or leaking. Jags always had beautiful lines, but again, I more often see them parked vs. on road.
That is my vast knowledge of Brit cars.

You're not wrong. I started my apprenticeship on Pommie cars, Triumphs, BMC, UK Fords, etc, all universally POS's. When the first Toyota Corollas and Honda Civics arrived we couldn't believe how easy they were to work on, and that nuts and bolts didn't seize solid after 10 minutes in the rain.
It's similar now, my Mustang has so much better access around the drivetrain than my Euro cars had.
It's hard to beat front engine/rear drive for cheaper servicing costs.

 

[Cz_Ziemniak]

You're not wrong. I started my apprenticeship on Pommie cars, Triumphs, BMC, UK Fords, etc, all universally POS's. When the first Toyota Corollas and Honda Civics arrived we couldn't believe how easy they were to work on, and that nuts and bolts didn't seize solid after 10 minutes in the rain.
It's similar now, my Mustang has so much better access around the drivetrain than my Euro cars had.
It's hard to beat front engine/rear drive for cheaper servicing costs.

my heart lay with british POS’s.

with that being said, they have soooooooo many flaws. Never thought of them as being difficult to work on though.

 

[LouG]

my heart lay with british POS’s.

with that being said, they have soooooooo many flaws. Never thought of them as being difficult to work on though.

Things like the oil filter being just above the cross member on Austin A50's and you can barely get a hand in there, brake master cyl located under the floor in a chassis rail on Morris Minors. The idler bearing issue on the mini's etc, trying to change a thermostat bypass hose on mini's. Everything being siezed, covered in oil, or rusted out.
One of the worst was the head stud arrangement on Triumph Stags where one row was straight and the other angled towards them. You had to remove those to lift the head off.

 

[Cz_Ziemniak]

Things like the oil filter being just above the cross member on Austin A50's and you can barely get a hand in there, brake master cyl located under the floor in a chassis rail on Morris Minors. The idler bearing issue on the mini's etc, trying to change a thermostat bypass hose on mini's. Everything being siezed, covered in oil, or rusted out.
One of the worst was the head stud arrangement on Triumph Stags where one row was straight and the other angled towards them. You had to remove those to lift the head off.

Triumph Stag’s were a special sort of fucked up, but you gotta admit, they looked damn good.

had one come in the shop once. Cooling issues, course, hahah

 

[LouG]

Triumph Stag’s were a special sort of fucked up, but you gotta admit, they looked damn good.

had one come in the shop once. Cooling issues, course, hahah

They did.
The owner told me to take it home for the night as she couldn't pick it up.
Pretty trusting to tell a 19 year old carnut to do that. It had quite a few more miles on it in the morning.

 

[Cz_Ziemniak]

hahah, I fully believe it

 

[Spainer]

Out of interest. Does anyone know if you don’t have active exhaust what setting the stock one compares to? Meaning would it sound like normal, sport, track?

 

[350 Feet]

Out of interest. Does anyone know if you don’t have active exhaust what setting the stock one compares to? Meaning would it sound like normal, sport, track?

Sir, I have no reason to doubt that it would be classified as “Normal”, as standard exhaust goes through a resonator(s) and then a muffler(s).
The active simply allows the exhaust an easier, less restrictive path to the tailpipe(s). Eliminate your resonator and it would sound more like “Sport”. Swap-out the muffler to something custom (Borla, etc.) and you’ll have a tone closer to “Track”.

 

[Will2]

Ok ok then, I have a perfect S550/S650 cross-over question for these esteemed and seasoned Mustang6G old-timers. Here's one that'll stump ya, which I haven't been able to get a consistent answer to:

Do '15-'17 Mustang GT axle-back exhausts (single tip on each side) fit '24+ Mustang GTs without active exhaust (also single tip on each side)?

I suspect this is the case. Aftermarket companies seem to not want to confirm this, although I feel they might be biased towards pushing people to newer/pricier parts. If it's true though, then us base exhaust guys have more and cheaper options.

Update: MBRP initially said no, but I told them it looks like it should work and they said they checked with an engineer and it indeed should work.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Ok ok then, I have a perfect S550/S650 cross-over question for these esteemed and seasoned Mustang6G old-timers. Here's one that'll stump ya, which I haven't been able to get a consistent answer to:

Do '15-'17 Mustang GT axle-back exhausts (single tip on each side) fit '24+ Mustang GTs without active exhaust (also single tip on each side)?

I suspect this is the case. Aftermarket companies seem to not want to confirm this, although I feel they might be biased towards pushing people to newer/pricier parts. If it's true though, then us base exhaust guys have more and cheaper options.

Update: MBRP initially said no, but I told them it looks like it should work and they said they checked with an engineer and it indeed should work.

If you're just referring to just the mufflers, I don't see why they wouldn't fit. The pipe diameter should be the same.

Now as to why you'd select that muffler...that's a whole other discussion.

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