Do we think Ford is going to make an S650 GT500/Cobra?

[robvas]

Wrong again.. I'm using the 2025 Mustang Ecoboost 0-60 which is 4.5 seconds by Car and Driver.

When did they publish that test? They just started making the cars like a week ago

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[Mustang1987]

When did they publish that test? They just started making the cars like a week ago

Within the last month. Publications and content makers on YouTube have been reviewing 2025 GTs and Ecoboosts also.

 

[robvas]

Within the last month. Publications and content makers on YouTube have been reviewing 2025 GTs and Ecoboosts also.

so share the link

(this is gonna be good)

 

[Mustang1987]

so share the link

(this is gonna be good)

It's easy to find. Use Google. I did the work for you again. The link is below.

https://www.caranddriver.com/ford/mustang

 

[robvas]

It's easy to find. Use Google. I did the work for you again. The link is below.

https://www.caranddriver.com/ford/mustang

perfect. I knew that's what you were using I just wanted to hear you say it.

they haven't reviewed a 2025 yet, as I said. Their stats that they link to, are from the 2024 review of the optioned out high performance pack car. Check it out for yourself.

 

[GripTime]

I have enjoyed the debate here with the Ecoboost vs Type R.

Me personally have met several people with an Ecoboost and they love those cars. One I met said he couldn't afford a GT. Then he went on to talk about how badass the Ecoboost was. Not taking sides because I wouldn't cross shop an Ecoboost and Type R, but the Ecoboost is rear wheel drive and fun.

 

[Mustang1987]

perfect. I knew that's what you were using I just wanted to hear you say it.

they haven't reviewed a 2025 yet, as I said. Their stats that they link to, are from the 2024 review of the optioned out high performance pack car. Check it out for yourself.

This is the hill you want to go on? Lol

Performance package isn't shaving a half second off the 0-60 time. There are many tests showing 0-60 base Ecoboost coming in at under 5 seconds, which is the $46k civic type r 0-60 time.

 

[Mustang1987]

I have enjoyed the debate here with the Ecoboost vs Type R.

Me personally have met several people with an Ecoboost and they love those cars. One I met said he couldn't afford a GT. Then he went on to talk about how badass the Ecoboost was. Not taking sides because I wouldn't cross shop an Ecoboost and Type R, but the Ecoboost is rear wheel drive and fun.

Even though I have a GT, those Ecoboosts are a blast to drive! And super quick. They really give you a lot of value for being in the lower $30Ks.

 

[robvas]

Performance package isn't shaving a half second off the 0-60 time.

Yes it is. Better gearing, wider summer tires, drag mode with mageneride shocks...

MotorTrend's 2018

This was born out at the test track, as well. At 5.3 seconds to 60 mph and 13.9 seconds in the quarter at 97.2 mph, this is the quickest EcoBoost Mustang we've ever tested and nicely reverses a trend we discovered and reported of EcoBoost Mustangs getting slower. Our test team found Drag Strip mode, unsurprisingly, returned the best results, though it surprisingly doesn't have launch control.

Car and Driver's 2018

Speaking of redlines, our test car clocked a 5.1-second zero-to-60-mph time and cleared the quarter-mile in 13.7 seconds with a trap speed of 102 mph. Those numbers are 0.4 and 0.2 second quicker than those of a 2015 EcoBoost Mustang with the six-speed manual we tested; considering the 2018 Mustang’s 3556-pound mass (101 pounds lighter than the 2015 car) and additional midrange torque, that’s about what we expected.

Another C&D 2018 (strangely enough another PP car)

Swapping the 310-hp 2.3-liter turbo four's manual for an automatic yielded modest improvements at the test track: its zero-to-60-mph run dropped a mere tenth, from a respectable 5.1 seconds to 5.0, with the quarter-mile pass shrinking from 13.7 to 13.5 seconds but with a 3-mph-slower trap speed of 99 mph.

Not many people here have taken their 2024's to the drag strip stock so we don't know if C&D's 2024 test was a ringer or...hey, maybe they were using the wildly inaccurate timers on the dash! 0.8 seconds is a huge gain for what's basically the same car.

 

[Mustang1987]

Yes it is. Better gearing, wider summer tires, drag mode with mageneride shocks...

Still quicker than 5 seconds. And $14k cheaper. It's a good value. Not going to convince anyone otherwise.

 

[robvas]

Still quicker than 5 seconds. And $14k cheaper. It's a good value. Not going to convince anyone otherwise.

Again, you don't even have a test of a base model to prove that.

So now you're using the stupid "AI overview" from Google?

 

[Zcarmenb28]

Yeah, the 5.0 has better performance than the Ecoboost of course. I have a 5.0 with the performance package, active exhaust, nite pony etc.

But the Ecoboost is a lot cheaper and gives great performance... Even better 0-60 than a type r that costs 46k lol And that was the original point. I said it was good value.

Good day

You keep saying that but you’re comparing a manual type R to the A10 with the performance package. The regular $32k Ecoboost wasn’t tested and without the sticky tires is likely not as quick as the PP Ecoboost. Anyway, different trans is not apples to apples. That said, even with the manual the Type R accelerates quicker than the “quickest” Ecoboost A10 Mustang C&D has tested above 60 mph. 60-100 splits are 7.7 seconds for the A10 Ecoboost and 7.2 for the new Gen Type R. The previous Gen Type R was 6.7 seconds, also a manual. As another comparison point the Mustang Ecoboost manual tested by C&D had a 60-100 split of 8.1 seconds. So clearly the Type R is a quicker car when apples to apples, one 0-60 test not withstanding.

 

[Mustang1987]

You keep saying that but you’re comparing a manual type R to the A10 with the performance package. The regular $32k Ecoboost wasn’t tested and without the sticky tires is likely not as quick as the PP Ecoboost. Anyway, different trans is not apples to apples. That said, even with the manual the Type R accelerates quicker than the “quickest” Ecoboost A10 Mustang C&D has tested above 60 mph. 60-100 splits are 7.7 seconds for the A10 Ecoboost and 7.2 for the new Gen Type R. The previous Gen Type R was 6.7 seconds, also a manual. As another comparison point the Mustang Ecoboost manual tested by C&D had a 60-100 split of 8.1 seconds. So clearly the Type R is a quicker car when apples to apples, one 0-60 test not withstanding.

I never said the 60-100 Ecoboost was quicker. He said that the Ecoboost was worthless and I said it has a better 0-60 than the type r which he didn't believe.

The type r is 50% more money than an ecoboost lmao It should be blowing the doors off it but it doesn't.

 

[BoostRabbitGT]

It's gone. So you can't get a "good" EcoBoost anymore. The ones all the magazines test. You get basic brakes, all season tires, no performance rear end blah blah

so negating all the things they EB owners brag about being great handling blah blah

Ok, "Basic 'Boost" owner here. I will likely never track my Mustang or push it to its absolute limits. But you'd have an easier time telling me my car sounds like lawn mower vomit before convincing me my EcoBoost handles like diarrhea-drizzled runs and that I should be absolutely ashamed for enjoying how my car handles for strictly daily driving purposes.

 

[Mustang1987]

Again, you don't even have a test of a base model to prove that.



So now you're using the stupid "AI overview" from Google?

So you agree that the $32k ecoboost 0-60 is quicker or as quick as the $46k type r 0-60?

I'm not crapping on the type r by any means, but you were saying the Ecoboost is worthless. I'm saying it has good value. If the lowest of the low base Ecoboost is quicker or as quick as a $46k type r 0-60, then it has very good value.

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