2024 Mustang sales comment

[robvas]

The Challenger and Charger are two different vehicles.

No kidding.

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[robvas]

Thought experiment. Add insurance premium increases to these figures, convert to % increase, then trend that line graph with average wage growth %, maybe it'll all click for you.

Meanwhile, last year the prices of the F150 dropped as much as $2,235

Price increases only affect Mustangs apparently!

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/fo...lling anyone, Ford has,cut as the Lariat trim.

 

[robvas]

Here's the worst part about only selling 40,000 cars a year.

Less aftermarket. Look how much smaller the Camaro aftermarket is for example.

Combine that with no tuning options, that spells doom for current Mustang enthusiasts

 

[A10devil]

Meanwhile, last year the prices of the F150 dropped as much as $2,235

Price increases only affect Mustangs apparently!

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/ford-cuts-prices-on-core-2025-f-150-models.html#:~:text=Without telling anyone, Ford has,cut as the Lariat trim.

That's interesting. I've given up trying to understand Ford's pricing strategy or whatever numbers McKinsey or BCG comes up with for them.

 

[Mustang1987]

Meanwhile, last year the prices of the F150 dropped as much as $2,235

Price increases only affect Mustangs apparently!

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/ford-cuts-prices-on-core-2025-f-150-models.html#:~:text=Without telling anyone, Ford has,cut as the Lariat trim.

Out of the eight trims of f150s that article listed, five of those trims went up in price.

 

[young at heart]

Increase in over $10k since 2021 is nuts

$8k in two years is even more nuts.

In 2023 the Camaro LT1 (base V8 model) started at $36,695

The Mustang used to be a relatively inexpensive car.

Honestly guys, this whole thing is being way over analyzed and pummeled to death for no real reason and no end game. Raise your hand if you think armchair ciphering is gonna change one little thing.

Who cares what any other car costs or what the Mustang used to cost? It is what it is whether anybody likes it or not. If you want one and can justify the price, then buy one. Otherwise, well you know, don’t.

Alternatively maybe a potential buyer could send all their calculation logic to Ford who would then quickly realize they’d made a serious pricing error and cut that person a special deal so they could sell one more car.

Good grief.

 

[young at heart]

That's interesting. I've given up trying to understand Ford's pricing strategy or whatever numbers McKinsey or BCG comes up with for them.

Their pricing strategy is strictly market driven, like every manufacturer.

 

[Pouncer]

No kidding.

My response was directed at erocker who combined the two vehicles in saying they outsold the Mustang.

 

[robvas]

Out of the eight trims of f150s that article listed, five of those trims went up in price.

The most popular ones went down

 

[robvas]

My response was directed at erocker who combined the two vehicles in saying they outsold the Mustang.

That was me.

The point was they were all leftover last years models, but they still sold more than the current production Mustang model

 

[Pouncer]

That was me.

The point was they were all leftover last years models, but they still sold more than the current production Mustang model

I don’t doubt your sales figures. But IMO combining those two vehicles to make a sales point doesn’t make any sense to me. Looking back I can see an argument for combining the Camaro and Firebird. Basically the same. Or nowadays combining the Silverado and Sierra. Again, basically the same.
Anyway thanks for the civil conversation. A refreshing change in our world today.

 

[robvas]

Those Dodges are overpriced as shit too. Last model Scatpack was almost as much as the Hellcat when it first came out

 

[Skye]

If you want one and can justify the price, then buy one. Otherwise, well you know, don’t.

Alternatively maybe a potential buyer could send all their calculation logic to Ford who would then quickly realize they’d made a serious pricing error and cut that person a special deal so they could sell one more car.

I felt the concerns being expressed were very much the former, not so much the latter.

Their pricing strategy is strictly market driven, like every manufacturer.

It could be Ford does not have a choice, that their costs are high and they have to price the car at the level. If it is due only to less competition, fewer V8-powered or performance coupes available, I'd be worried of pricing myself away from the audience which bought the model previously.

Whatever the causes, hopefully Ford will make changes and stabilize future sales.

 

[rixretired]

Noticed some negative feelings that Mustang had it's worst sales year of it's existence. That comes with some points that need consideration. Yes, the price is a big factor. Never been a higher priced Mustang. Ford has taken it out of the entry level particularly for younger guys and gals. When a manufacturer continues to add multiple features that have nothing to do with performance cost is a factor. Personally, I could do without a lot of it and go back to the option of buying a basic car like the old Fox Body LX rather than a GT. We went from that to GT and GT premium with every electronic device offered. It costs money.
I have a 2024 GT premium while leaving price out of the conversation, is a fantastic car. I thoroughly enjoy it.
I came from a 2020 Camaro LT1. That car resembled what a basic performance car should be. It had performance, comfort, with all the bells and whistles left off. Don't like to think of the price difference between that car and the Mustang but it is what it is. Try buying a new Camaro or Challenger in 2025. At least Ford is offering us a muscle car with that V-8 rumble. It's what we're willing to pay for it.

If the Mustang GT Premium and 401 Pkg was not available with the creature comforts that I enjoy, and my only choice was a boy racer striped down Stang, I would have bought a Corvette. In fact I really wish the Mustang had a few more features, like a HUD, surround view camera, folding mirrors, and Moon roof. These are all things that Ford has in their parts bin, yet they chose not to make it available.

 

[Q6543]

At some point (perhaps beginning even now) we’ll have a lost decade… and increases will be 1-2% for many many years…

it’s easy to complain, but the bottom strata are making more than ever which is the true driver of price increases

every loser I know makes $20/hr now or better…. A lot of these people are so useless they shouldn’t be employed, or make like $7.50/hr tops…

THATS where the price increases/inflation across the board comes from.

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