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  1. Stage 1 Dark Horse Incoming.

    tab saved. Thanks !
  2. Need Owner Feedback...M2 or DH

    I took a short drive today to get lunch, I'm on my 3rd week of reacquainting myself after the blower & header install. I am not an indiscriminate speeder, but the power is just nuts. It's been in the 80s's so my PS4S get up to temp pretty quick now so after a few miles in I got to enjoy some...
  3. Green cats versus cat delete

    I just did the stage 2 whipple & stainless works - for ease of installing cats. The shop would not install the cats, due to them getting melted along with stockers. I'm sure there are cats out there that will withstand the blower for a while but I'm just not that motivated as of yet. kept the...
  4. At what price does the Mustang start to make no sense?

    Well, if we believe the 6G die hards, the Dark Horse has zero collectible value and next to zero resale value, so in 2028 we should be able to pick up a DHSC track pack for about $85k gently used. You can already crack high 70's - lower 80's with the current MY Dark Horse, so 100k for the...
  5. Need Owner Feedback...M2 or DH

    yeah, there's the rub. I think they looked at several models and tried to pick a model to target in each aspect; cabin layout, gauges, screens, etc. Rather than identifying a single model or car to compete against and win. And, the looming elephant in the room - we're paying a surcharge on...
  6. Dark Horse Dash

    I knew I'd read this somewhere. I need to read up on this, but mine runs all the time with my interchiller, unless I swap it to the intercooler manually I grew up with radio, so old habits are hard to break. I'll concede the signal quality gap, but sometimes I don't know what I want to listen...
  7. Need Owner Feedback...M2 or DH

    FU, I'm going there. :-P I haven't sampled the brand b infotainment system, or any of them since my rental bmw lost its brakes on an abs fault on Susten Pass, almost 18 years ago. Color me prejudiced. It may well have a good info system now, but Sync has been around a long time, and been...
  8. Start and stop function

    It is normal and working as designed. Keep an eye on the condition, the auto stop/start should resume functioning during the drive. If it doesn't begin activating after about 45 minutes in one drive, you may have a battery or charge issue that's more than just a few days sitting idle. Look...
  9. I will NOT be ordering a SC DH

    My bet is we are all being played by FMC. This is a trial balloon to measure just how much outrage the comically high asking prices are, especially knowing a significant portion is to make up the loss of the failed EV program. First we were amortizing the loss per EV unit, now we're...
  10. Whipple finally installed!

    Assuming 18% driveline loss, that's around 665 to the wheels. Having a stage 2, let me just say: Increase your tire budget by a factor of 3 and have a set of rears at the ready. I haven't felt a car change gears like this since the last time I drove a big block. Even if you drive...
  11. Need Owner Feedback...M2 or DH

    Also Gen X. The 10r80 in the '24+ Mustangs is next lever better than my '17 Raptor programming and yes I realize it's a car to truck comparison. I've got bikes if I want to manually shift and honestly, the 10r80 does fine on track but not for as long as the tremec, and the 10r80 shifts faster...
  12. Dark Horse Dash

    I have a different opinion. The track mode gauge setup, ... there's just nothing to dislike.
  13. 2026 Dark Horse SC Mustang pricing released!

    Answer: Sadly, Jimmy will die of natural causes before accumulating enough money for a down payment and financing for a Dark Horse SC track pack special edition.
  14. FORD Lightning EV is dead. (Article)

    I liked the 2 way power station; I could use the truck as battery backup, but locally, the truck is barely capable of 220 miles due to our relatively high speed limits and _slightly_ higher customary speed. The money shot (no pun intended): "...The problem was they were never going to pay...
  15. 2026 Dark Horse SC Mustang pricing released!

    :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
  16. Need Owner Feedback...M2 or DH

    I'm closest to COTA now and haven't been other than a spectator. I think if you shop around -maybe even close to Summit Point, where I got my '17 Rap at MSRP in January of '17 ... you should be able to score a HP MDH with a well provisioned ESP for under 75k. I will concede, there are a few...
  17. Need Owner Feedback...M2 or DH

    Oh man, Summit Point!!! my former home track. If you're looking for premium service on any Ford, you'll be disappointed unless you buy from a place that also sells Lincolns. Honestly, I'd pay for the perk, my wife can just call, schedule, they bring a loaner, take her car for service and...
  18. I will NOT be ordering a SC DH

    That's what it's all about !
  19. Dark Horse Dash

    It's important to remember that in the 60's and 70's, our 'gold standard' muscle cars depreciated right off the lot too and by about '78 - '80, a 351C Mach 1 was pretty darn cheap. Big blocks were commanding more $$ but not insane amounts more. Now, 50 years on, you're going to shell out...
  20. I will NOT be ordering a SC DH

    All fair points, but I would point out we have a bunch on here running stage1 & 2 whipples on GT's and MDH and yes, there have been some teething issues, but I think extra cooling is doable on the non SC model depending on the use case. There's a right and wrong use case for each path. I...





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