Auto stop start on a 2025 GT premium.

[Zig]

A Mustang forum arguing about hybrids. Maybe someone will drive a Prius besides that brit.

I would prefer lucid

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[RDH43]

Sorry one more post to tamp down fake news from the stop/start apologist...lol...


Nearly 100%
of modern battery-electric vehicles (EVs) feature some form of regenerative braking as a core component. While virtually all EVs have this technology, a very high majority allow drivers to adjust the intensity of the regen—ranging from low/coast modes to, in many cases, one-pedal driving...



And... in my 54 cars and trucks I've owned I've probably had more Mustangs than you too...Just not at the moment.... And as far as I know owning a Mustang is not a requirement to tamp down ideology that is so far wrong its a comedy to join in with the majority of the sane gang in here...

Do you have a glossy photo of Greta in your room? Rhetorical I know the answer.


Peace



PS, I've driven several hybrids (not owned) but no prius....(had a few try to pass me though)

would drive a lucid if had opportunity...

 

[Frogdog1]

The start/stop feature on a Prius requires purple hair to work at all. Just a little info.

 

[Gregs24]

Sorry one more post to tamp down fake news from the stop/start apologist...lol...


Nearly 100%
of modern battery-electric vehicles (EVs) feature some form of regenerative braking as a core component. While virtually all EVs have this technology, a very high majority allow drivers to adjust the intensity of the regen—ranging from low/coast modes to, in many cases, one-pedal driving...



And... in my 54 cars and trucks I've owned I've probably had more Mustangs than you too...Just not at the moment.... And as far as I know owning a Mustang is not a requirement to tamp down ideology that is so far wrong its a comedy to join in with the majority of the sane gang in here...

Do you have a glossy photo of Greta in your room? Rhetorical I know the answer.


Peace



PS, I've driven several hybrids (not owned) but no prius....(had a few try to pass me though)

would drive a lucid if had opportunity...

That is EXACTLY what I said - EV's can adjust regen braking but most hybrids can't - please read more carefully! FHEV/PHEV and EV are not the same - the clue is in the name. You are literally arguing against yourself there.

It was you that said hybrids recharge the battery using the engine but if you think about that for even a second you will realise that is not happening. FHEV's have small batteries (1.5kWh ish) which would take an engine less than a minute to fully charge if it could - then what? Once the battery is saturated it cannot be used for regen braking storage as it is fully charged. If you use the engine you destroy the point of regen braking.

You still didn't give the source of your table I asked for. No source no validity obviously.

You can drop the childish comments if you want to be taken seriously outside of your local bar by the way

 

[A10devil]

He's back - the holier than thou, smug UK mouth breather on all fours for his government EV mandates - "yeah do that to me daddy". You just cannot take these people seriously.

 

[RDH43]

That is EXACTLY what I said - EV's can adjust regen braking but most hybrids can't - please read more carefully! FHEV/PHEV and EV are not the same - the clue is in the name. You are literally arguing against yourself there.

It was you that said hybrids recharge the battery using the engine but if you think about that for even a second you will realise that is not happening. FHEV's have small batteries (1.5kWh ish) which would take an engine less than a minute to fully charge if it could - then what? Once the battery is saturated it cannot be used for regen braking storage as it is fully charged. If you use the engine you destroy the point of regen braking.

You still didn't give the source of your table I asked for. No source no validity obviously.

You can drop the childish comments if you want to be taken seriously outside of your local bar by the way

You don't get tell others what to say....sorry but you're wrong again as usual.

You can adjust regen braking on Honda Ford Chevy hybrids and to some extent even Stelantis and Toyota but those simply has an a/b switch...You can't turn it off but you can turn it down which is what we've said all along. And those brands are for sure not the minority. As I said MOST have an adjustment.

I've driven several of those including Accord and Ford and so I have first hand knowledge of what I speak...If you think stop start is intrusive regen braking turned up is way way worse...lol

You don't need a source to tell fake ideology when you see it..The internet will tell you men can get pregnant...lol


Peace.

 

[Gregs24]

You don't get tell others what to say....sorry but you're wrong again as usual.

You can adjust regen braking on Honda Ford Chevy hybrids and to some extent even Stelantis and Toyota but those simply has an a/b switch...You can't turn it off but you can turn it down which is what we've said all along. And those brands are for sure not the minority. As I said MOST have an adjustment.

I've driven several of those including Accord and Ford and so I have first hand knowledge of what I speak...If you think stop start is intrusive regen braking turned up is way way worse...lol

You don't need a source to tell fake ideology when you see it..The internet will tell you men can get pregnant...lol


Peace.

LOL - your favourite response

Well our Ford PHEV does not have adjustable brake regen - hey but what do I know I only own one

What the hell has ideology got to do with how hybrids work?

Still no source for your table - did you make that up as well?

 

[RDH43]

LOL - your favourite response

Well our Ford PHEV does not have adjustable brake regen - hey but what do I know I only own one

What the hell has ideology got to do with how hybrids work?

Still no source for your table - did you make that up as well?

You're the only one mentioning plug in hybrids...

lol

 

[Gregs24]

You're the only one mentioning plug in hybrids...

lol

You were not specifying which hybrids hence the reason I was being very specific regarding PHEV / FHEV or even EV to avoid confusion. Hybrid covers far too many different types I'm afraid.

But just to confirm the Ford FHEV doesn't have adjustable regen either

 

[RDH43]

You were not specifying which hybrids hence the reason I was being very specific regarding PHEV / FHEV or even EV to avoid confusion. Hybrid covers far too many different types I'm afraid.

But just to confirm the Ford FHEV doesn't have adjustable regen either

Don't be afraid...there are two basic types of hybrids plug in and non plug in

Plug in's make up about two percent give or take of all hybrids...lol so you are wrong as usual and still digging the hole deeper trying to get out lol...ain't gonna happen



But just to confirm... we never mentioned plugins and we never said ALL we said MOST have adjustable braking and as usual this side of the world is right again...

No not smug at all...;)

and to be fair plug in hybrids are as dumb as plug in ev's....hence no one wants them either it seems...

Peace....I'm out for fish and chips.

 

[Gregs24]

Don't be afraid...there are two basic types of hybrids plug in and non plug in

Plug in's make up about two percent give or take of all hybrids...lol so you are wrong as usual and still digging the hole deeper trying to get out lol...ain't gonna happen



But just to confirm... we never mentioned plugins and we never said ALL we said MOST have adjustable braking and as usual this side of the world is right again...

No not smug at all...;)

and to be fair plug in hybrids are as dumb as plug in ev's....hence no one wants them either it seems...

Peace....I'm out for fish and chips.

Don't be afraid...there are two basic types of hybrids plug in and non plug in - Well actually that isn't correct, you mention FHEV and PHEV, which I did, but you obviously forgot mHEV, REHV (REEV) and also FCEV all of which are hybrids. No reason the be smug it seems.

We don't all live in the USA. PHEV's make up a much larger proportion outside the US and have a very strong market because of what they do in other parts of the world.

Global sales of plug in cars are soaring so lots of people want them it seems, must all be idiots ehh

 

[RDH43]

Don't be afraid...there are two basic types of hybrids plug in and non plug in - Well actually that isn't correct, you mention FHEV and PHEV, which I did, but you obviously forgot mHEV, REHV (REEV) and also FCEV all of which are hybrids. No reason the be smug it seems.

We don't all live in the USA. PHEV's make up a much larger proportion outside the US and have a very strong market because of what they do in other parts of the world.

Global sales of plug in cars are soaring so lots of people want them it seems, must all be idiots ehh

Plug ins sale are dropping in the smart countries The US sold over a million non plugins...about 10 percent of ev's and 148k plug ins as it dropped from previous years to under 2 percent...


So now hybrids are getting better but not plug ins really but over here for sure as they dropped 4% and as non plug ins proliferate they will drop even more....Some day you may be right again....but never on cars...lol Sales in Europe notwithstanding....They'll eventually figure it out too...Just takes a little longer for some.

 

[Frogdog1]

Look at a map. European cars don't get as many miles put on them as American cars. Some of them can go fast because of the Autobahn mentality. IM correct opinion, European cars don't last as long because they don't need to with few miles put on them .......over there.

 

[Gregs24]

Plug ins sale are dropping in the smart countries The US sold over a million non plugins...about 10 percent of ev's and 148k plug ins as it dropped from previous years to under 2 percent...


So now hybrids are getting better but not plug ins really but over here for sure as they dropped 4% and as non plug ins proliferate they will drop even more....Some day you may be right again....but never on cars...lol Sales in Europe notwithstanding....They'll eventually figure it out too...Just takes a little longer for some.

Ignoring your silly comment.

PHEV sales are increasing in many countries more than expected which is why a lot of Chinese brands are now producing PHEV's or REEV's to go alongside their EV and petrol models.

They don't work for everybody of course but no vehicles do however if you do mostly small distances with occasional longer journeys they are perfect, I know because we have one.

So your belittling approach simply demonstrates your lack of understanding that other people have different demands and needs for their cars, and have figured out exactly what they need and are buying it. Maybe a tough one to swallow for you but that is life.

Oh and you forgot to say thank you for explaining about hybrid types that you had failed to appreciate.

 

[Doc2020GT]

I didn’t read all 17 pages of this but my 2025 GT Premium I got in November is off when I start. Only way it ever turns on is if I hit the button (which I never do now) and then the next time I start the car it’s off again. I don’t know if my sales guy did something but I suspect he did. He was familiarizing me on the screen differences from my 2020 and he asked if I liked the on off system and of course I said no. I was looking away but I swear he hit something on the screen that turned it off. I called him a couple days later and asked him how he did that and he denied he did anything and I have to use the button to turn it off. I don’t know if he was just covering his ass but I swear he turned it off on the screen somehow. I’ve searched every setting on the screen and can’t find it. I don’t know if he used some sorcery on it but I’m glad he did.

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