Selling my 2025 DH and the market is in the tank

[Alex381]

But you have to look at the whole picture, one hand giveth and the other takes away!

There are so many different taxes and until you look at all of them and the impact on you in each country it is impossible to compare. In general most countries tax about the same overall but how they get there is very different.

Yep. My federal tax typically lands around 12% overall, but that ignores 6.2% for social security and 1.45% medicare, then 2.75% state, 3.25% local, 8% sales tax. Once those and all the other odd ball Taxes are factored in, it works out to about 40%.

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[Ryunker]

Yep. My federal tax typically lands around 12% overall, but that ignores 6.2% for social security and 1.45% medicare, then 2.75% state, 3.25% local, 8% sales tax. Once those and all the other odd ball Taxes are factored in, it works out to about 40%.

Until you retire in a state with zero state tax, 4.5% sales tax along with no more of the other crap. Then it is way easy to budget a new DH.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Trade in values started falling on Mach 1s early last year. Prior to that they were holding fairly decent compared to GTs. Now its seems neither S650 is holding value well. Obviously some depreciation is always expected, but the OP was right to be miffed by HOW MUCH depreciation in that short amount of time. I wouldn't say the DH isnt desirable, so much as its an expensive niche car without name recognition in an uncertain economy. Dealers dont want stuff sitting in the lot for 3-6 months so they lowball the trades. Unfortunately these cars just aren't good investments.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

LOL at anybody who thought buying any S650 is an "investment," much less a "good investment."

 

[R3G]

Cycled through 4-5 new cars the last couple years and noticed when a car is still within a couple years old, trade-in value hovers around the same level. So it doesn't make sense to trade within 1-2yr, if one can resist the urge (I apparently cannot).

Yes I have the same affliction.

 

[Alex381]

LOL at anybody who thought buying any S650 is an "investment," much less a "good investment."

Any car period. It’s always a gamble and literally never guaranteed to offer a return. You’ll practically always be better off to buy a car to drive it until it’s worthless than to try to “beat the system” and make money from it.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

LOL at anybody who thought buying any S650 is an "investment," much less a "good investment."

Investment was a poor choice of words. What I meant was they aren't holding their value as well as other new cars.

 

[COBill]

LOL at anybody who thought buying any S650 is an "investment," much less a "good investment."

I mentioned elsewhere that a $76K BMW M2 is worth $65K if you drive it out of the dealer's driveway and immediately turn around and drive it back in.

I would imagine that same ~$11K hit would be true if you did the same with any S650 V8 of equivalent price level.

 

[Alex381]

I mentioned elsewhere that a $76K BMW M2 is worth $65K if you drive it out of the dealer's driveway and immediately turn around and drive it back in.

I would imagine that same ~$11K hit would be true if you did the same with any S650 V8 of equivalent price level.

This is why I’m always surprised anyone pays sticker for these cars. I bought mine $8k under sticker and I still feel like I could have done a bit better. I will never pay for day one depreciation on a new car.

 

[COBill]

It's not usually a choice.

Especially for the DH It's only been recently that you could get one for under MSRP.

Right now there are deals on new 2025s, but to me those cars are already one year old regardless of whether they have ever been titled.

The best discounts I've seen on a 2026 DH are more like $1500 off.

 

[Alex381]

It's not usually a choice.

Especially for the DH It's only been recently that you could get one for under MSRP.

Right now there are deals on new 2025s, but to me those cars are already one year old regardless of whether they have ever been titled.

The best discounts I've seen on a 2026 DH are more like $1500 off.

Big part of why I never considered a DH. The actual price to buy one is insane. At least $20k-$30k over a loaded GT with performance package.

 

[COBill]

That's not true.

The GT I had priced out was only about $3K less than the equivalent DH once you add the 701A, B&O stereo, MagneRide, the Performance Package and Anti-Theft packages to the GT, and the Tremec is well worth that.

 

[Alex381]

That's not true.

The GT I had priced out was only about $3K less than the equivalent DH and the Tremec is well worth that.

Priced out and actually bought are very different things. as was said discounts aren’t really a thing for the DH, but $10k off isn’t at all unrealistic on the GT.

 

[COBill]

X Plan would have got me $3K off on an order of a new GT.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Big part of why I never considered a DH. The actual price to buy one is insane. At least $20k-$30k over a loaded GT with performance package.

Apples to apples a loaded DH is quite a bit more. But it's actually only a few grand more for a Base DH over a loaded GTPP premium.

The problem is, once you are in 65k plus territory, a non super charged coyote is just too damn expensive. Im going Corvette or used Porsche at that point.

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