U-DRAG Race: Whippled Dark Horse vs Corvette C8 Stingray

[TcarterGT2024]

I thought they said in the video 810

I was wrong, it’s 810HP. I should have GTS’d first.

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[d4rkg04t]

It's 810 crank not wheel (and wasn't making full power)

That car 'only' made 629 at the tire

The handling pack Dark Horse is 4,028lb according to the magazines

Add another 100lbs for the supercharger and 200lbs for a driver

4,328lbs total

Yeah! That's so weird, now that you bring it up. I'm seeing a lot of wild AT numbers with those Dark Horses. I've seen several autos make well under 700rwhp. I see the manuals making as low as 700rwhp and at high as 730rwhp on canned Whipple tunes with 93 octane. You made an excellent point and that's probably where the crappy times and traps originated.

 

[d4rkg04t]

Again, they already made a video about their car

91 octane

stage 1 whipple

it's an automatic there's no driving involved

Stage 1 is capable of utilizing up to E30 for more timing. If they really filled the tank with just 91, then that's another point in your corner for sure.

I do respectfully disagree about the AT comment. Deciding to use or not to use the paddles along with the most important aspect which is knowing how do throttle control on a supercharged car. If it's not a proper drag strip with some drag radials or a simple highway hit, having the AT in this case is probably somewhat detrimental to their results due to, as someone else put it, doing all the wrong things with the 10-speed and not knowing how to come off the line without spinning.

Also, as you mentioned, a dusty airstrip instead of a prepped surface invalidates all conclusions as too many random factors now come into play.

 

[IceGamer]

This was one of my worst spinning

Maybe we talk about different things here?!

If those numbers a valid, and I have no reason to believe they're not, than you either have a heavily modified Mustang and or a prepped surface. Both is nothing I was referring to. Prepped surfaces do not count when one compares real world numbers. They don't exist except in a fairy tail world where people prepare a surface for one specific reason only. That's far away from a regular street.

A stock Mustang (S550 or S650) on everything but Cup 2 (and a like) tires (and even they have to be warmed up) will never put down those numbers or even anything close. 0-100 km/h is always 4.x in a dark horse.

If we talk tuned cars and prepped surfaces it's like comparing apples and oranges.

 

[GrabThatBlue]

I don't know why U-Drag has such a hard time putting down good launches and ET's with Mustangs. I can't imagine putting down a mid-11 with a supercharged Dark Horse. The C8, however, popped out of the hole like they all do... very, very well.

Because the Mustang is known as a car that doesn't grip well from the dig.

 

[robvas]

Prepped surfaces do not count when one compares real world numbers. They don't exist except in a fairy tail world where people prepare a surface for one specific reason only. That's far away from a regular street.

If you're not talking prepped surfaces when you're comparing 0-60 there's almost no point in talking about them. It's the only way to make it fair and comparable.

I have seen many a silly Dragy number for too many years. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't particularly look to Dragy as evidence any more than the stock dashboard.

Dragy is very accurate.

 

[Q6543]

@IceGamer , yeah I have a whipple GT, like the dark horse in the vid
It’s gotta be mid to low 2s on prep, I’m sure of it

 

[IceGamer]

If you're not talking prepped surfaces when you're comparing 0-60 there's almost no point in talking about them. It's the only way to make it fair and comparable.

Dragy is very accurate.

Quite the opposite. Everyone can have good traction on a prepped surface. It makes up for a lack of engineering. That's why AWD cars a vastly superior when it comes down to 0-60 times because they can actually bring down the power.

Less fun to drive though...

 

[IceGamer]

@IceGamer , yeah I have a whipple GT, like the dark horse in the vid
It’s gotta be mid to low 2s on prep, I’m sure of it

That’s bonkers…
Anyhow, you probably have a second or third car for daily driving and stuff…

 

[robvas]

Quite the opposite. Everyone can have good traction on a prepped surface. It makes up for a lack of engineering. That's why AWD cars a vastly superior when it comes down to 0-60 times because they can actually bring down the power.

Less fun to drive though...

Sounds like you've never been in an AWD car that spun the fronts and had wheel hop

 

[d4rkg04t]

Dragy is very accurate.

It wasn't back when I first tried them. Touchy. But, I took you at your word and looked into them now (it's been a while) and I think you're right. Their accuracy and tolerance for varying road conditions/angles has improved. I might get one! Do you know if it's worth going Pro?

 

[LouG]

It's 810 crank not wheel (and wasn't making full power)

That car 'only' made 629 at the tire

The handling pack Dark Horse is 4,028lb according to the magazines

Add another 100lbs for the supercharger and 200lbs for a driver

4,328lbs total

Get rid of the fat basterd. Get a jockey.

 

[LouG]

Quite the opposite. Everyone can have good traction on a prepped surface. It makes up for a lack of engineering. That's why AWD cars a vastly superior when it comes down to 0-60 times because they can actually bring down the power.

Less fun to drive though...

Yeah, my AWD would stay with, or maybe beat, my GT to 100kmh. But past that it's all over rover. More of that 486 hp is getting to the wheels.

 

[IceGamer]

Yeah, my AWD would stay with, or maybe beat, my GT to 100kmh. But past that it's all over rover. More of that 486 hp is getting to the wheels.

Well, if we would have an AWD Mustang the one without it would probably never beat it if the only difference is AWD. By the time both cars reach 60/100 the AWD car is probably one second ahead… Make it optional like in the current M cars and you just simply have a better car that performs much better and is still fun to drive.

 

[LouG]

Well, if we would have an AWD Mustang the one without it would probably never beat it if the only difference is AWD. By the time both cars reach 60/100 the AWD car is probably one second ahead… Make it optional like in the current M cars and you just simply have a better car that performs much better and is still fun to drive.

OK, everyone might want different things from their cars, but I like the edginess of driving a high power RWD car.
Probably because I've ridden bikes for so long. Like poking the bear.

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