Weak Ventilated Seats

[gbadger]

Yeh there is no noise. They dont do all that much.

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[Ducatti20]

Just a fan moving air with these yes? So won't work better than airflow and temperature provided to them. Do they have a filter?

 

[DT-GT]

This has been discussed in previous threads. No, not just a fan moving air. They are a heating and cooling unit that cool or heat based upon the current passing through them. With a small fan to move the cool or warmth through the seats. Or at least this is what I have seen in the past.

Just a fan moving air with these yes? So won't work better than airflow and temperature provided to them. Do they have a filter?

 

[GT Marcus]

I have had 6 Mopars with better ventilated seats than my 2025 GT. The seat fan does make more noise than the air coming out.

 

[DT-GT]

Additional info:

A car heated and cooled seat unit utilizes a thermoelectric device (TED) to regulate the temperature of the seat, providing both heating and cooling functions. This is achieved by passing an electrical current through the TED, which causes one side to heat up and the other to cool down. A fan then circulates air over the TED, and that air is either heated or cooled before being distributed through the seat.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
How it Works:

• Thermoelectric Device (TED):
  The core of the system, the TED, is a solid-state device that utilizes the Peltier effect to generate heat or cold.
  
  
• Heating and Cooling:
  By reversing the polarity of the electrical current, the TED can switch between heating and cooling functions.
  
  
• Air Circulation:
  A fan blows air over the TED, and the resulting heated or cooled air is channeled into the seat.
  
  
• Distribution Pad:
  A distribution pad, often made of reticulated foam, helps evenly distribute the air throughout the seat.
  
  
• Perforated Upholstery:
  For cooling to be effective, the seat upholstery needs to be perforated to allow the air to flow through

 

[Ducatti20]

Additional info:

A car heated and cooled seat unit utilizes a thermoelectric device (TED) to regulate the temperature of the seat, providing both heating and cooling functions. This is achieved by passing an electrical current through the TED, which causes one side to heat up and the other to cool down. A fan then circulates air over the TED, and that air is either heated or cooled before being distributed through the seat.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
How it Works:

• Thermoelectric Device (TED):
  The core of the system, the TED, is a solid-state device that utilizes the Peltier effect to generate heat or cold.
  
  
• Heating and Cooling:
  By reversing the polarity of the electrical current, the TED can switch between heating and cooling functions.
  
  
• Air Circulation:
  A fan blows air over the TED, and the resulting heated or cooled air is channeled into the seat.
  
  
• Distribution Pad:
  A distribution pad, often made of reticulated foam, helps evenly distribute the air throughout the seat.
  
  
• Perforated Upholstery:
  For cooling to be effective, the seat upholstery needs to be perforated to allow the air to flow through

Thank you for that information!

 

[Abilor]

Additional info:

A car heated and cooled seat unit utilizes a thermoelectric device (TED) to regulate the temperature of the seat, providing both heating and cooling functions. This is achieved by passing an electrical current through the TED, which causes one side to heat up and the other to cool down. A fan then circulates air over the TED, and that air is either heated or cooled before being distributed through the seat.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
How it Works:

• Thermoelectric Device (TED):
  The core of the system, the TED, is a solid-state device that utilizes the Peltier effect to generate heat or cold.
  
  
• Heating and Cooling:
  By reversing the polarity of the electrical current, the TED can switch between heating and cooling functions.
  
  
• Air Circulation:
  A fan blows air over the TED, and the resulting heated or cooled air is channeled into the seat.
  
  
• Distribution Pad:
  A distribution pad, often made of reticulated foam, helps evenly distribute the air throughout the seat.
  
  
• Perforated Upholstery:
  For cooling to be effective, the seat upholstery needs to be perforated to allow the air to flow through

So if the Peltier effect is presumably governed by voltage and amperage, could I modify the seat to increase the current by 10% to beef up the heating/cooling effect without harming the device I wonder? Maybe as simple as removing a resistor and replacing with a lower resistance...

 

[DT-GT]

Are you thinking 110V or 220V?

So if the Peltier effect is presumably governed by voltage and amperage, could I modify the seat to increase the current by 10% to beef up the heating/cooling effect without harming the device I wonder? Maybe as simple as removing a resistor and replacing with a lower resistance...

 

[Abilor]

Are you thinking 110V or 220V?

Lol, I was thinking 12.5 DC V

 

[Topic]

My cooling is very weak, I took it in and Ford said they are working fine and that there is no problem.

 

[Jeff Ross]

Noise? My seats make zero noise on high cool or high heat. They are small units with small fans, so this seems strange to me.

Oh yeah. Minimal cooling - Loud on high. At first I thought there was something wrong with the sound system. Sounds like a loud computer fan - very noticeable when you turn them off! Maybe one or both are mounted wrong? I’ll mention to dealer - I’m only 3500 miles - I did a 1K oil change and was planning to get a dealer service around 5K.

 

[DT-GT]

I think some folks turn the climate control fan to high thinking that this is necessary. If so, that fan is quite loud when on high.

 

[Jeff Ross]

I think some folks turn the climate control fan to high thinking that this is necessary. If so, that fan is quite loud when on high.

Understand what you are saying but in my case it’s fan noise from the seats regardless of the climate control fan setting.
It’s not a massive issue to me since my car is garaged and I’m retired so I luckily don’t often have to leave it parked in the sun. It’s mainly frustrating in relation to my Avalon that had really fantastic seat cooling. And the Avalon had these little pop-up seat controls on the console that you could operate without looking.
But - the Avalon was nowhere near the driving experience of the Mustang - Once I start driving I forget all about it!

 

[AZ_Ryan]

I think some folks turn the climate control fan to high thinking that this is necessary. If so, that fan is quite loud when on high.

No. I can hear my cars vented seats running too. It's not loud or obtrusive, but it's there, and it's noiser than my '23 was. I couldn't here my 2015 seats running at all.

 

[Billycar11]

I don't think our seats have a tec/ted

Its called heated and ventilated
Think it's just a fan
So putting the AC to also go to the floor may help
But I agree the breeze is not strong it kinda just enough to feel it

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