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@OppoLock I think his point is the Shelby comes along with “Shelby owner culture”

which is basically a stereotype, I.e. the jacket, thumping your chest about how great the Shelby is… all that stuff.
 

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Except the Shelby is quicker and faster than any HD.
For the $160,000 the Super Snake costs you could fill your garage with:

$20,000 Harley Davidson Softail
$30,000 Harley Davidson Street Glide
$90,000 Model S Plaid
$20,000 Suzuki Hayabusa

And heck, you could also buy a Mustang GT instead of 2 of the motorcycles
 

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honestly, this looks pretty underwhelming. sure, you'll know its a shelby, but its gonna be on par or beat by a supercharged GT that is 1/3 of the price and has more customization options
Gonna be a bit hard to out perform it on anything that isn't a straight line for that cheap.

The supercharger and supporting power train components, aluminum hood, carbon fiber rear decklid, carbon fiber wing, forged magnesium wheels, Sure you can get those pretty easily. But they won't be cheap

The carbon fiber widebody front fenders allowing the car to easily fit 305s in front though may bit a bit harder to get.

I'd say closer to 2/3rds the price of the super snake to go blow for blow (cost of the car plus parts).
 


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For the $160,000 the Super Snake costs you could fill your garage with:

$20,000 Harley Davidson Softail
$30,000 Harley Davidson Street Glide
$90,000 Model S Plaid
$20,000 Suzuki Hayabusa

And heck, you could also buy a Mustang GT instead of 2 of the motorcycles
I get it, I wasn’t making a price equivalency, but rather that the HD is overpriced period, not just overpriced for what you get. I mean, it takes a lot to make a motorcycle with over 1000cc’s to go slower than 4.5 seconds to 60mph, but HD manages to do it- Vrod and Pan America excepted.

Lots you can do with a buck sixty.
Raptor R + Mustang GT.
2x Dark Horse Mustangs + a couple superchargers installed.
3x Mustang GT's
No way I’d buy an Eyeabuser. ZX14 or H2.
that would be... 4(?) Ninja H2
3 Ducati Panigales or 2x Superlegerras
and on.

So I’m not saying the shelby isn’t overpriced, just that it’s not overpriced for simply the namesake like a HD. At least you get something for the money, albeit very pricey something...
 

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Gonna be a bit hard to out perform it on anything that isn't a straight line for that cheap.

The supercharger and supporting power train components, aluminum hood, carbon fiber rear decklid, carbon fiber wing, forged magnesium wheels, Sure you can get those pretty easily. But they won't be cheap

The carbon fiber widebody front fenders allowing the car to easily fit 305s in front though may bit a bit harder to get.

I'd say closer to 2/3rds the price of the super snake to go blow for blow (cost of the car plus parts).
still, based on performance alone, i dont know who can justify 160k for a "performance mustang" that doesnt even have the diff cooler from the Dark Horse. you can fit 315s under the stock fenders no issue, and 325s if you dont mind the smallest amount of rubbing and poke. the hood is aluminum from factory. i feel like the magnesium alloy wheels are also a gimmick, because pure magnesium is 1.74g/cm^3, where aluminum is 2.7g/cm^3. obviously, they cant use pure magnesium due to it's reactivity, so they probably alloy it with aluminum, making it a weird middle child. it feels like the Shelby tax has gotten quite severe and they're just kind of adding nothings that sound like something meaningful
 

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still, based on performance alone, i dont know who can justify 160k for a "performance mustang" that doesnt even have the diff cooler from the Dark Horse. you can fit 315s under the stock fenders no issue, and 325s if you dont mind the smallest amount of rubbing and poke. the hood is aluminum from factory. i feel like the magnesium alloy wheels are also a gimmick, because pure magnesium is 1.74g/cm^3, where aluminum is 2.7g/cm^3. obviously, they cant use pure magnesium due to it's reactivity, so they probably alloy it with aluminum, making it a weird middle child. it feels like the Shelby tax has gotten quite severe and they're just kind of adding nothings that sound like something meaningful
Oh don't get me wrong, this is definitely not a good deal all things considered. Especially when you consider that for this price you could get a nearly top spec C8 Z06, and that will run circles around the shelby on any race track and have a (arguably) better interior.

My point was to just say don't expect to throw a blower and sticky tires on and be able to easily hang with a shelby GT around a track.
 

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Oh don't get me wrong, this is definitely not a good deal all things considered. Especially when you consider that for this price you could get a nearly top spec C8 Z06, and that will run circles around the shelby on any race track and have a (arguably) better interior.

My point was to just say don't expect to throw a blower and sticky tires on and be able to easily hang with a shelby GT around a track.
agreed. power + tires =/= fast around corners
 

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Gonna be a bit hard to out perform it on anything that isn't a straight line for that cheap.
Easy

buy a base GT, whipple stage II, add headers, your choice of wheels and tires and any weight saving parts you want (driveshaft, tbm front brakes, k member, carbon hood/trunk...)
 

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Easy

buy a base GT, whipple stage II, add headers, your choice of wheels and tires and any weight saving parts you want (driveshaft, tbm front brakes, k member, carbon hood/trunk...)
Cool now go look at what people say about the GT350 vs the GT350R on track or the GT500 vs the GT500 CFTP, and you'll see that power+tires =/= fast around a corner. Shelby does way more to the car that you'll have to do in turn if you want to match it on track.
 

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Cool now go look at what people say about the GT350 vs the GT350R on track or the GT500 vs the GT500 CFTP, and you'll see that power+tires =/= fast around a corner. Shelby does way more to the car that you'll have to do in turn if you want to match it on track.
you do know that the "Shelby" that makes the Super Snake has nothing to do with the GT350 and GT500 that are designed and produced by Ford, right?

and you know the super snake doesn't include any suspension mods, right?

and you know the super snake only has "upgraded brake rotors" with the factory provided calipers and pads, right?

and you know there are none of the additional coolers etc you would get on the dark horse or Mach 1, right?
 

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Car is amazing.
This color really doesn’t work for the car in my opinion. But there’s no hiding it’s a looker.
I’d choose more streamlined wheels and a different color scheme, but really wish this was my car.
 

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you do know that the "Shelby" that makes the Super Snake has nothing to do with the GT350 and GT500 that are designed and produced by Ford, right?

and you know the super snake doesn't include any suspension mods, right?

and you know the super snake only has "upgraded brake rotors" with the factory provided calipers and pads, right?

and you know there are none of the additional coolers etc you would get on the dark horse or Mach 1, right?
Thanks for admitting that you didn't actually read what I said.

Please remove head from ass and actually pay attention to what I said. Compare a Gt350 to a track spec Gt350, a GT500 to a track spec GT500, and your Supercharged GT to this track spec Supercharged GT and you'll see why a simple blower and tires won't make up that gap. There is more going on with the SS that makes it more track capable than a simple "base GT with a blower and tires"
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