roadpilot
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Where? Show me some listings.You can get a new DH under MSRP now...not good for anyone trying to sell one they just bought
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Where? Show me some listings.You can get a new DH under MSRP now...not good for anyone trying to sell one they just bought
I'm not the person that posted this, but they're out there. A quick glance at Cars.com brought up these results from just the first page of 16 pages of listings. There are 305 Dark Horses listed on Cars.com, and I only included results from the first page that actually had the MSRP in the main listing.Where? Show me some listings.
One is only $1,500 off. It requires you to finance through the dealership itself for $500 of that. It also requires you to trade something in for the other $1000, which means they will low ball your trade in, then pad it - not any actual savings.I'm not the person that posted this, but they're out there. A quick glance at Cars.com brought up these two from just the first page, without any sorting by price:
Grabber Blue
Vapor Blue
I doin't feel bad for those suckers that paid an ADMI'm not the person that posted this, but they're out there. A quick glance at Cars.com brought up these two from just the first page, without any sorting by price:
Grabber Blue
Vapor Blue
Neither do it, but then again, maybe they make boat loads of cash and don't care. Lots of folks can afford super expensive luxury and supercars that cost six and seven figures.I doin't feel bad for those suckers that paid an ADM
I updated my post, so you may want to check it out. There were a handful of discounts on just the first page of listings. A couple were 3 grand off MSRP.One is only $1,500 off. It requires you to finance through the dealership itself for $500 of that. It also requires you to trade something in for the other $1000, which means they will low ball your trade in, then pad it - not any actual savings.
Not sure what the discount is for on the other one, but I'm sure there's a catch.
My neighbor is the new car manager at a Ford dealer, he told me the same thing about not being able to use my A plan on the DH but he had just sold one for 1500 off.Neither do it, but then again, maybe they make boatlaods of cash and don't care.
When I called the dealership on mine, I told them flat out that, while I know the DH is not eligible for AZ Plan pricing, I'm not paying one nickel over MSRP. The agreed. The only other costs over that were $260 for doc fees, a $24 fee to register electronically, $31 for title and transfer of plate, and state sales tax.
Zero details on the sites as to what, exactly, the requirements are for those discounts. Often, discounts listed are a bunch of smaller discounts, with each one requiring to you be eligible (e.g., military discount, college student discount, member of the local PTA discount, etc.).I updated my post, so you may want to check it out. There were a handful of discounts on just the first page of listings. A couple were 3 grand off MSRP.
AZ Plan pricing has very specific rules. The AZ Plan price with zero negotiation, of course, as well as very specific caps for certain other things (e.g., doc fees).My neighbor is the new car manager at a Ford dealer, he told me the same thing about not being able to use my A plan on the DH but he had just sold one for 1500 off.
I wonder if they will loosen up on that or not when it gets closer to the end of the model year. I didn't realize the Mach 1 was excluded as well.
Sure, but just because they're listed for MSRP or above doesn't mean they're actually selling for that. Unfortunately we don't really have any way to know what they're actually selling for, but I suspect that some of these DHs have been sitting unsold for a while and the dealers just want to move them at this point.Zero details on the sites as to what, exactly, the requirements are for those discounts. Often, discounts listed are a bunch of smaller discounts, with each one requiring to you be eligible (e.g., military discount, college student discount, member of the local PTA discount, etc.).
If they are slashing MSRP just because, more power to whoever buys them. But the VAST majority of new DH for sale are either MSRP or +ADM.
Then we will see the real markups! And it won't be a cheap car to start with.Just wait a year or two when they release a GTxxx version with 600/700+ HP
The advertisement gets you in to the showroom. When you get there and they drop the bomb and tell you you're not eligible for the "advertised" discount because you don't have one eye and aren't a member of the local Butcher & Baker's Union, well, that's the real story.Sure, but just because they're listed for MSRP or above doesn't mean they're selling for that.
Plus, I was just answering your question where you asked to see Dark Horses for less than MSRP.
Personally, I'm not aware of ANY specialty model of Mustang that was (in recent years) originally not eligible for AZ Plan pricing that became eligible later. Think GT350, GT500, Mach 1, etc.I wonder if they will loosen up on that or not when it gets closer to the end of the model year. I didn't realize the Mach 1 was excluded as well.
Then we will see the real markups! And it won't be a cheap car to start with.
But it is also true that a dealer is 100% free to choose not to accept the plans on any and all of their vehicles. That would be business suicide here in SW Michigan with such a high concentration of eligible auto industry employees, but it is very common for dealers to not accept A/Z/X plans on certain vehicles in short supply.Personally, I'm not aware of ANY specialty model of Mustang that was (in recent years) originally not eligible for AZ Plan pricing that became eligible later. Think GT350, GT500, Mach 1, etc.