WHOA!

[Q6543]

I was just wondering if you remove both carbon traps if the new GT really makes closer to 510… good to see porting will also be on the menu!
Should be a easy 10 sec NA Bolton car.

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[LETHAL]

That is certainly interesting.

Love to see a diagram and explanation of how that intake works. Dual 80mm is it? That is a shit ton of air coming in from those twin boxes and throttler bodies.

 

[Skye]

Removing the carbon trap in the '22 saw a net gain of +10 HP.

One of the technical riddles I'd like to study as well: how the dual intakes will work. I can think of...

1. Work together at the same time
2. Work progressively. As one is almost completely open, the second one comes on.
3. Secondary opens at WOT.

And modes. if the secondary is active in certain modes only, like Sport+, Track and Drag.

 

[sdsteele2]

“This strategy is biased towards one opening at low RPM and load, but then the two work together and sync up on the way to wide open throttle.”

https://www.enginelabs.com/news/2024-s650-ford-mustang-gt-to-be-powered-by-gen-4-coyote/

 

[LETHAL]

“This strategy is biased towards one opening at low RPM and load, but then the two work together and sync up on the way to wide open throttle.”

https://www.enginelabs.com/news/2024-s650-ford-mustang-gt-to-be-powered-by-gen-4-coyote/

I am sure it will work well, but you know the more parts you throw in there, the more problems.

 

[dollybud]

Warranty Issue maybe?

 

[LETHAL]

Removing the carbon trap in the '22 saw a net gain of +10 HP.

One of the technical riddles I'd like to study as well: how the dual intakes will work. I can think of...

1. Work together at the same time
2. Work progressively. As one is almost completely open, the second one comes on.
3. Secondary opens at WOT.

And modes. if the secondary is active in certain modes only, like Sport+, Track and Drag.

Just beware of tampering with emissions related parts. I would not advertise it LOL

 

[Q6543]

pretty sure the U.S. Supreme Court WANTS us all to go back to long tubes, off-road X pipes and full fxcking race cams!

 

[Q6543]

Removing the carbon trap in the '22 saw a net gain of +10 HP.

mach 1 picked up 18RWHP and 13TQ on the dyno… so… there could possibly be almost 40 RWHP being handed to us for free!

 

[Dena]

I am sure it will work well, but you know the more parts you throw in there, the more problems.

It isn't complex at all. 4 barrel carburetors operated on two barrels until the pedal was pressed beyond a certain point. That would open the other two barrels and unleash all the horse power. It's a simple mechanical linkage and rarely if ever caused a problem. What was complicate is multiple carburetors. There was the 6 pack with three two barrel carburetors and multiple 4 barrels on a single engine but it worked well enough that it was common on muscle cars.

 

[LETHAL]

It isn't complex at all. 4 barrel carburetors operated on two barrels until the pedal was pressed beyond a certain point. That would open the other two barrels and unleash all the horse power. It's a simple mechanical linkage and rarely if ever caused a problem. What was complicate is multiple carburetors. There was the 6 pack with three two barrel carburetors and multiple 4 barrels on a single engine but it worked well enough that it was common on muscle cars.

All mechanical and vacuum operated. Not electronically controlled and not working with two types of fuel injection as the new Mustangs are.

 

[MickB]

is there carbon traps in the new gen 4 motor?

 

[Zig]

All mechanical and vacuum operated. Not electronically controlled and not working with two types of fuel injection as the new Mustangs are.

Some of the old stuff was mechanical all the way. Mechanical secondaries, mechanical distributor advance, etc. but

Sometimes I feel as if being computer controlled does take some of the fun out of it. Hey hold a sec let me swap out this jet while you fire up the laptop and wait for the os update and then the app to load and so on….

if ‘carbon traps’ provide 20+ hp increase, then the gt really is the dh in disguise.

 

[BrianJ77]

You have my attention! Does this affect warranty, or just more emissions crap robbing horsepower?

Anyone wanna post their removal process and dyno results before and after?

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