Whipple and Resale Value

[Neggytive]

Warranty? Dealer will sell it as-is.

The rotor pack on a Whipple or TVS will last a looong time.

In some states dealers have to warranty their vehicles unless they are under a certain very low dollar threshold.

In MA it used to be anything under $700 could be sold without a warranty, anything over $699 with under 125000 mikes MUST have a warranty

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[Jekyll_Hyde]

Does a whipple really destroy a Mustang over 5 - 10 years. I plan to keep my car for life and it’s new. If I add a whipper with the other recommended upgrades and drive mostly in a civilized way, will I regret it in the long term? I’m under the impression the car can handle the extra horse power and is built knowing drivers will likely modify the engine. Thoughts?

 

[robvas]

In some states dealers have to warranty their vehicles unless they are under a certain very low dollar threshold.

In MA it used to be anything under $700 could be sold without a warranty, anything over $699 with under 125000 mikes MUST have a warranty

That's terrible

 

[TonyT930]

Does a whipple really destroy a Mustang over 5 - 10 years. I plan to keep my car for life and it’s new. If I add a whipper with the other recommended upgrades and drive mostly in a civilized way, will I regret it in the long term? I’m under the impression the car can handle the extra horse power and is built knowing drivers will likely modify the engine. Thoughts?

To me, I can't see how a power adder like a Whipple wouldn't wear things out faster over time. Our Mustang GTs weren't designed for 700 hp and 600 lb ft of torque. Ok, maybe the engine can handle it to a certain degree, but the trans, rear axles, chassis, cats, wheel bearings, suspension etc not to mention heat management are potential problems. It might be fun and hold up for a while, but it sounds very very expensive for the ticket of admission and over time. And it's a ton of work if you are a DIYer. Do you have the time, patience, and money? Don't get me wrong, I have tossed around the idea of a supercharger for my car more than once. If I were to ever take the chance, it would be with a centrifugal supercharger, probably ESS. The centris seem to be easier on the other parts and heat management seems better.

 

[Jekyll_Hyde]

To me, I can't see how a power adder like a Whipple wouldn't wear things out faster over time. Our Mustang GTs weren't designed for 700 hp and 600 lb ft of torque. Ok, maybe the engine can handle it to a certain degree, but the trans, rear axles, chassis, cats, wheel bearings, suspension etc not to mention heat management.. It might be fun and hold up for a while, but it sounds very very expensive for the ticket of admission and over time. And it's a ton of work if you are a DIYer. Do you have the time, patience, and money? Don't get me wrong, I have tossed around the idea of a supercharger for my car more than once. If I were to ever take the chance, it would be with a centrifugal supercharger, probably ESS. The centris seem to be easier on the other parts and heat management seem better.

We’re all in different situations life-wise.

My first car was a Mustang GT in the 80s. I washed it at 6:00 am before high school if it rained overnight. I recently bought a 2025 60th Anniversary after having practical, family car for 30+ years. This will be my fun car until I leave this planet, at which time it will go to my sons. I want to enjoy it as much as possible while I can. That’s my barometer. I will take very good care of her, my wife is already jealous.

So for me, if the whipple increases my enjoyment, without unduly harming my beloved, I want one.

 

[robvas]

Plenty of whipple cars go 100k

You try to make a ton of power and beat on it every day, you're going to break stuff but that goes for a non-supercharged car, too.

 

[MustangMitch69]

I don’t believe you will get even half of it back from what I’ve seen .
I am debating Whipple for my DH as well.
But I just can’t justify it.
$12k + tires and wheels so $15k minimal on a 24 premium that I got for $4k under sticker and still feel like I’d be pissing away $12k.
I will road course the car , not drag race is another factor.
I love pushing the performance and want more but just can’t justify it.
I have the money but it’s just not smart money at 46.
You crash and you’re fucked if you don’t insure the work with expensive insurance.
Just my2 cents.
I just want a Wengerd e85 tune and I’d be happy!

Same here, I have the money, but it's just not necessary for daily city and highway driving. 486 horses is already enough if not excessive.

I'm sure it's fun just like certain drugs are fun, but I'm not 20 years old anymore, and at this point in my life longevity is more important to me than fleeting thrills.

2 weeks ago I looked at a Ferrari and my wife was pissed, not because of the money, but because she thinks the mustang looks better!

 

[Jekyll_Hyde]

Same here, I have the money, but it's just not necessary for daily city and highway driving. 486 horses is already enough if not excessive.

I'm sure it's fun just like certain drugs are fun, but I'm not 20 years old anymore, and at this point in my life longevity is more important to me than fleeting thrills.

2 weeks ago I looked at a Ferrari and my wife was pissed, not because of the money, but because she thinks the mustang looks better!

IMO a mustang is a cooler car. Why did u look at a Ferrari if ur not interested in fleeting thrills?

 

[MustangMitch69]

IMO a mustang is a cooler car. Why did u look at a Ferrari if ur not interested in fleeting thrills?

I was looking at a used Portofino M, which is much more of a touring car than a race car. I like its sleek and aerodynamic design, retractable hardtop, and also its handling precision (lighter chassis, advanced suspension). Love how the mustang looks too, although you can't deny that during spirited driving (NOT racing) you really feel the weight of the car, and when you turn the steering wheel you don't have 100% confidence in where exactly the wheels are pointing. It's not as much of a "straight line car" as the Dodge's, although certainly moreso than the European cars. Are those upgrades worth the $150K+ difference? Certainly not, for most people.

 

[zpduff]

I was looking at a used Portofino M, which is much more of a touring car than a race car. I like its sleek and aerodynamic design, retractable hardtop, and also its handling precision (lighter chassis, advanced suspension). Love how the mustang looks too, although you can't deny that during spirited driving (NOT racing) you really feel the weight of the car, and when you turn the steering wheel you don't have 100% confidence in where exactly the wheels are pointing. It's not as much of a "straight line car" as the Dodge's, although certainly moreso than the European cars. Are those upgrades worth the $150K+ difference? Certainly not, for most people.

Ferrari makes beautiful cars. "A Ferrari" was always my dream car growing up, I'll never own one, but damn they look good.

 

[JimC]

The reason that a dealer doesn't offer anything "extra" for modifications was explained by a friend of mine who is a dealer. When he goes to sell the car it is looked at as whatever the VIN reports by the lender, and the modifications mean nothing for value to the lenders.

So the car sitting on his lot, if he adjusts the price for the modification (like the Whipple) means that it is taking up his floor financing while he waits to find the right buyer who can afford to pay the difference in price between what he is trying to get "extra" over what the lender says it is worth. The dealer would rather have you find that right buyer who will pay your the difference instead.

 

[young at heart]

I was looking at a used Portofino M, which is much more of a touring car than a race car. I like its sleek and aerodynamic design, retractable hardtop, and also its handling precision (lighter chassis, advanced suspension). Love how the mustang looks too, although you can't deny that during spirited driving (NOT racing) you really feel the weight of the car, and when you turn the steering wheel you don't have 100% confidence in where exactly the wheels are pointing. It's not as much of a "straight line car" as the Dodge's, although certainly moreso than the European cars. Are those upgrades worth the $150K+ difference? Certainly not, for most people.

I can’t fault you for looking at a Portofino. It’s a beautiful high-end European GT car in the genre of the 550 Maranello and many Aston GT cars. I think the general styling similarity to these cars is partly responsible for me being so crazy about the looks of the Mustang 550/650 series.

Your comment above about the steering is exactly why I traded my gorgeous ‘24 GT for a Dark Horse after only a few hundred miles. I otherwise loved the car but the steering felt way too light and over boosted. It was vague and twitchy and for lack of a better way to describe it seemed imprecise and not connected to the road. I had several 22-23 GTs and Mach 1s that did not feel this way. I still have a ‘20 GT that feels great. I have no idea what it is but it was disconcerting to me and the DH cured the problem.

 

[MustangMitch69]

I can’t fault you for looking at a Portofino. It’s a beautiful high-end European GT car in the genre of the 550 Maranello and many Aston GT cars. I think the general styling similarity to these cars is partly responsible for me being so crazy about the looks of the Mustang 550/650 series.

Your comment above about the steering is exactly why I traded my gorgeous ‘24 GT for a Dark Horse after only a few hundred miles. I otherwise loved the car but the steering felt way too light and over boosted. It was vague and twitchy and for lack of a better way to describe it seemed imprecise and not connected to the road. I had several 22-23 GTs and Mach 1s that did not feel this way. I still have a ‘20 GT that feels great. I have no idea what it is but it was disconcerting to me and the DH cured the problem.

Thanks for sharing! I've heard very similar sentiment from others who have driven both the GT and the dark horse, and that the dark horse feels like a proper track car, and puts up the lap times to back it up.

The hang up for me was that the convertible was the higher priority, and there's no convertible dark horse trim. BMW and Porsche make some 2+2's with the best of both worlds, but they simply don't look as good, so they were non-starters for me.

And as popular as the C8 is, it doesn't do it for me in the looks department either, even after custom configuring a brand new one. Only my opinion, although to me it looks like the epitome of an identity crisis: an American sports car trying too hard to fit in with a different class.

 

[young at heart]

Thanks for sharing! I've heard very similar sentiment from others who have driven both the GT and the dark horse, and that the dark horse feels like a proper track car, and puts up the lap times to back it up.

The hang up for me was that the convertible was the higher priority, and there's no convertible dark horse trim. BMW and Porsche make some 2+2's with the best of both worlds, but they simply don't look as good, so they were non-starters for me.

And as popular as the C8 is, it doesn't do it for me in the looks department either, even after custom configuring a brand new one. Only my opinion, although to me it looks like the epitome of an identity crisis: an American sports car trying too hard to fit in with a different class.

I don’t care for the C8 styling either. Again for lack of more sophisticated verbiage it’s just too zoomy for me. Looks like a caricature of the love child thrown off by a Ford GT and most recent Lambos. Too angular with too many creases and eye diversions. My wife put it more succinctly: she said it looks like a Transformer. I’m old and I suppose I just prefer the swoopy curves of a really nice classic GT car. The 550/650 gives me that in spades, and generally handle great. Added bonus that they sound like the soundtrack of my youth!

 

[Junkyard Dog]

Your comment above about the steering is exactly why I traded my gorgeous ‘24 GT for a Dark Horse after only a few hundred miles. . . . I have no idea what it is but it was disconcerting to me and the DH cured the problem.

I was wondering what the issue was, since I had not experienced the steering issues being discussed. I own a Dark Horse and have never owed another Mustang. I thought the steering was better than my Audi, which I thought had good steering.

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