What direction should the next generation mustang styling go in?

[Cz_Ziemniak]

Dude, I swear it feels like I'm talking to some early version of an AI right now. Like, I know you're not an AI, but the way you steer conversations is so awkward

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[Zig]

Dude, I swear it feels like I'm talking to some early version of an AI right now. Like, I know you're not an AI, but the way you steer conversations is so awkward

If everything was uniform we’d all be the same.

 

[Q6543]

If we wanted a hot golf cart i’d buy vw, don’t forget they own bugatti

It is not about what we want (as we’ve witnessed over the last 30 years)
It’s about what Ford wants, and they want lower warranty repair costs, less moving parts that are potential failure points, with higher net margins and lower labor costs associated with production.

= EV mustang.

 

[Zig]

It is not about what we want (as we’ve witnessed over the last 30 years)
It’s about what Ford wants, and they want lower warranty repair costs, less moving parts that are potential failure points, with higher net margins and lower labor costs associated with production.

= EV mustang.

Hard to disagree regarding it’s fords decision but ev doesn’t automatically equal lower expense.

EV(il) mustang?

 

[AZ_Ryan]

I don't even know how they'd go about it without making this car more trouble than its worth. The safety regulations and everything are a double edged sword. If they made it smaller, cabin space would get cramped, and the engine bay would suffer the same. Would make working on the car a pita.

It's certainly a heavy car, but its no heavier than the current M4, which is roughly the same size and weight, even with the smaller engine. It sucks, but thats how it is. The reality of modern cars.

I totally agree. I'm fine with the current size and weight as long as they keep enough HP to move it.

 

[Zig]

Dude, I swear it feels like I'm talking to some early version of an AI right now. Like, I know you're not an AI, but the way you steer conversations is so awkward

 

[DeluxeStang]

I don't even know how they'd go about it without making this car more trouble than its worth. The safety regulations and everything are a double edged sword. If they made it smaller, cabin space would get cramped, and the engine bay would suffer the same. Would make working on the car a pita.

It's certainly a heavy car, but its no heavier than the current M4, which is roughly the same size and weight, even with the smaller engine. It sucks, but thats how it is. The reality of modern cars.

The best solution would be to switch to all aluminum body panels. From my understanding, that would shave hundreds of lbs off the car. Now that's more expensive of course, but maybe if they make things more cost efficient by sharing the platform with a sedan or other products, while switching to aluminum, they might be able to balance that out. Making more money in one area, while spending more the next. Maybe that additional profitability will make it possible to have an aluminum mustang without charging a lot more for it. Basically absorbing higher material costs because they're improving cost efficiency and profitability in another area.

 

[DeluxeStang]

Dude, I swear it feels like I'm talking to some early version of an AI right now. Like, I know you're not an AI, but the way you steer conversations is so awkward

Who are you talking to lol?

 

[Cz_Ziemniak]

The best solution would be to switch to all aluminum body panels. From my understanding, that would shave hundreds of lbs off the car. Now that's more expensive of course, but maybe if they make things more cost efficient by sharing the platform with a sedan or other products, while switching to aluminum, they might be able to balance that out. Making more money in one area, while spending more the next. Maybe that additional profitability will make it possible to have an aluminum mustang without charging a lot more for it. Basically absorbing higher material costs because they're improving cost efficiency and profitability in another area.

maybe, but it would still only save around 100 lbs, if I'd have to guess

 

[Cz_Ziemniak]

Who are you talking to lol?

this guy

 

[DeluxeStang]

maybe, but it would still only save around 100 lbs, if I'd have to guess

Perhaps, apparently the core structure is still made of steel as well, so if they made that out of aluminum? But again, that would be very expensive. Ford's CEO as a car enthusiast himself knows how important saving weight is, and has said he wants the make the mustang lighter. We'll see how successful he is.

I personally think a good goal to strive for is we know long term the mustang is gonna be a hybrid. Nothing wrong with that, perform hybrids are awesome to drive, but hybrid systems add weight. If they were able to take enough weight out of the car so that after adding the hybrid system it only weighed about as much as a current gt, that would be a massive win.

 

[Cz_Ziemniak]

Perhaps, apparently the core structure is still made of steel as well, so if they made that out of aluminum? But again, that would be very expensive. Ford's CEO as a car enthusiast himself knows how important saving weight is, and has said he wants the make the mustang lighter. We'll see how successful he is.

I personally think a good goal to strive for is we know long term the mustang is gonna be a hybrid. Nothing wrong with that, perform hybrids are awesome to drive, but hybrid systems add weight. If they were able to take enough weight out of the car so that after adding the hybrid system it only weighed about as much as a current gt, that would be a massive win.

Yeah, aluminum chassis and subframe would start approaching proper performance car territory. I'd love to see it, but no chance, lol.

 

[DeluxeStang]

Yeah, aluminum chassis and subframe would start approaching proper performance car territory. I'd love to see it, but no chance, lol.

It's definitely wishful thinking on my part lol. But ford did kill off like half their lineup so they could devote more resources to their "iconic" products like bronco and mustang while saying they're gonna invest more in mustang than ever before. So who knows, will they probably go this hard? Probably not, but there's a sliver of a chance in there.

 

[DeluxeStang]

Getting back to the topic at hand of mustang styling, here are some more ideas. If they wanted to pull more inspiration from the 90s by designing something with a lower nose, and more rounded styling, I wouldn't mind if Ford made something that looked like this Toyota.

Yes, I know, saying that would take inspiration from 90s mustangs is pushing it, but that inside source I quoted said if it has 1994-2004 styling cues they would be subtle. Plus this looks better than most of the faithful new edge inspired renderings I've seen.

 

[DeluxeStang]

Here's a rendering someone did of a modern design inspired by a fox body, really not feeling this one but it visualizes what a modern fox body would look like. I really hope Ford doesn't go in this direction because that looks just as bad as the original fox body lol.

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