Predictions thread

[because_murica]

AWD/hybrid options. (Ford Authority is the only source saying this is confirmed off the table for S650.)

Sedan/sportback body style. This one is more of a personal wish of mine. I've only heard about this being a possibility once and that was a few years ago. (At this point I'm more curious about a proper coupe or notchback body style, the latter would seem wild for me to imagine becoming a reality. But making additional coupe styles seems more feasible than a sedan/sportback at this point. Of course I'd love to be proven wrong with this point on September 14th.)

Engine options. I-4 Turbo and the 5.0 Coyote are the only confirmed ones so far. But I feel like I've heard or discussed a 6.8 or 7.3 V8 at some point as pure speculation.

These are what I remember reading here or on other hopefully reputable sites.

(Maybe one day we'll get a Mustang that's fueled by unicorn power that isn't literal waste. Whether it's better than ICE though...who knows?)

I think the 7.3 will make an appearance as well. Many on here (and elsewhere) have doubted that the 7.3 would make it to S650, much less that it would be used for a GT350 successor. I disagree. Just because it wouldn't be as high-revving as the glorious Voodoo doesn't mean that Ford won't make it happen, or that it would make it any less of a worthy GT350 successor. You can still likely de-stroke to 6.8L or 7L flat and still rev out to at least 7K, if not 7500 rpm (LS7 style, baby).

So, I predict a Godzilla based GT350, and a Predator GT500 with hybridization. Or, in the alternative of a GT350, a more hi-po Mach 1 with a Godzilla motor.

I don't care much for the lower trims, so I'll refrain from making any predictions in that regard.

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[lcbrownz]

AWD/hybrid options. (Ford Authority is the only source saying this is confirmed off the table for S650.)

Sedan/sportback body style. This one is more of a personal wish of mine. I've only heard about this being a possibility once and that was a few years ago. (At this point I'm more curious about a proper coupe or notchback body style, the latter would seem wild for me to imagine becoming a reality. But making additional coupe styles seems more feasible than a sedan/sportback at this point. Of course I'd love to be proven wrong with this point on September 14th.)

Engine options. I-4 Turbo and the 5.0 Coyote are the only confirmed ones so far. But I feel like I've heard or discussed a 6.8 or 7.3 V8 at some point as pure speculation.

These are what I remember reading here or on other hopefully reputable sites.

(Maybe one day we'll get a Mustang that's fueled by unicorn power that isn't literal waste. Whether it's better than ICE though...who knows?)

The direct injection system of the 2.3L has to be serviced every 50K and the head gasket wears out on the 2.3L easily when its constantly over-rev'd. So why does Ford keep this engine?

 

[shogun32]

The direct injection system of the 2.3L has to be serviced every 50K and the head gasket wears out on the 2.3L easily when its constantly over-rev'd. So why does Ford keep this engine?

claimed CAFE. And since when did Ford care about customer ownership costs? You want to point fingers at DISASTEROUS engines, try the 1.5l Ecoboost.

 

[because_murica]

The direct injection system of the 2.3L has to be serviced every 50K and the head gasket wears out on the 2.3L easily when its constantly over-rev'd. So why does Ford keep this engine?

As to the DI system needing to be serviced, are you referring to the valves requiring cleaning due to DI or the actual DI system itself? This is the first time I'm hearing of any potential issues with the 2.3's DI system. And, if it was an issue, it certainly doesn't seem to be an issue anymore.

The head gasket issue was certainly present on earlier iterations of the 2.3, but those issues have since been resolved. It's a pretty solid engine now, probably one of the most reliable in Ford's present inventory. If I were to get a new Explorer, I would probably opt for the 2.3 over the 3.0 TTV6 (which is well known to have issues unfortunately). Ideally, however, the Explorer hybrid is probably the overall most reliable option as it retains the 3.3 V6 from last gen.

 

[klink]

I think that's wishful thinking considering the Tremec likely costs significantly more per unit than the MT-82. From a business standpoint, it just wouldn't make any sense to go back. It's inferior to the Tremec, but it's not preventing anyone from buying the car. Hope I'm wrong

It has prevented me from buying one.

 

[DeluxeStang]

As to the DI system needing to be serviced, are you referring to the valves requiring cleaning due to DI or the actual DI system itself? This is the first time I'm hearing of any potential issues with the 2.3's DI system. And, if it was an issue, it certainly doesn't seem to be an issue anymore.

The head gasket issue was certainly present on earlier iterations of the 2.3, but those issues have since been resolved. It's a pretty solid engine now, probably one of the most reliable in Ford's present inventory. If I were to get a new Explorer, I would probably opt for the 2.3 over the 3.0 TTV6 (which is well known to have issues unfortunately). Ideally, however, the Explorer hybrid is probably the overall most reliable option as it retains the 3.3 V6 from last gen.

Wait, is the 3.3 a modified version of the 3.5 duratec from the previous gen then? My family has that engine in their 2017 explorer. Super reliable.

 

[Murfstang]

As to the DI system needing to be serviced, are you referring to the valves requiring cleaning due to DI or the actual DI system itself? This is the first time I'm hearing of any potential issues with the 2.3's DI system. And, if it was an issue, it certainly doesn't seem to be an issue anymore.

The head gasket issue was certainly present on earlier iterations of the 2.3, but those issues have since been resolved. It's a pretty solid engine now, probably one of the most reliable in Ford's present inventory. If I were to get a new Explorer, I would probably opt for the 2.3 over the 3.0 TTV6 (which is well known to have issues unfortunately). Ideally, however, the Explorer hybrid is probably the overall most reliable option as it retains the 3.3 V6 from last gen.

What known issues does the 3.0TT V6 have?… asking for a friend…

 

[because_murica]

What known issues does the 3.0TT V6 have?… asking for a friend…

Everything you need is right here: https://www.explorerforum.com/forums/forums/stock-2020-2023-ford-explorer-lincoln-aviator.193/

 

[because_murica]

What known issues does the 3.0TT V6 have?… asking for a friend…

Also check out "Ford Boss Me" on YouTube.

 

[Murfstang]

Everything you need is right here: https://www.explorerforum.com/forums/forums/stock-2020-2023-ford-explorer-lincoln-aviator.193/

74 pages of threads. I guess I’ll go digging for the one about 3.0EB issues. Was hoping you knew of something specific because I honestly haven’t heard of any issues with the engine.

 

[Murfstang]

Also check out "Ford Boss Me" on YouTube.

also haven’t seen any of his videos that were about issues with the 3.0L

Edit: I do remember one about a coolant issue which was due to a sensors or harness or something.

 

[because_murica]

also haven’t seen any of his videos that were about issues with the 3.0L

Edit: I do remember one about a coolant issue which was due to a sensors or harness or something.

No worries, but the two main issues I recall from the forums are the plastic oil pan leaking (like the 2.7 its based on), and leaking from from axle seals (where the axle meets the ptu).

 

[Murfstang]

No worries, but the two main issues I recall from the forums are the plastic oil pan leaking (like the 2.7 its based on), and leaking from from axle seals (where the axle meets the ptu).

so ultimately no issues with the engine at all.

 

[because_murica]

so ultimately no issues with the engine at all.

I wouldn't say that. Those are just the most common things I remember reading on that forum. And, to be fair, the oil pan leaks are technically still related to the engine.

 

[Murfstang]

I wouldn't say that. Those are just the most common things I remember reading on that forum. And, to be fair, the oil pan leaks are technically still related to the engine.

agreed about the oil pan, but that isn’t specific to that engine.

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