PP Oil Cooler install on my non-performance pack S650 Mustang

[Paul's stable]

Not really. You're adding something to the vehicle that the manufacturer didn't believe it needed and did not install.

You can add $100,000 worth of mods to your car if you want. But in some cases, adding a mod without a tangible benefit or purpose does little more than make you feel good and/or empty your wallet.

As a general rule, 230F to 260F is pretty normal oil temperature for most vehicles. Oil running within normal operating temps improves viscosity, which helps it protect the engine.

Dino oil above 280F to 300F will start to degrade, so you'd need a cooler at that point if running conventional oil. Synthetic blends are mostly conventional oil, which is what comes from the factory. If you run full synthetic, you're looking at well above 400F or more before it starts degrading.

If a daily driver needed an oil cooler, I'm sure Ford would have thought of that. I guess every other vehicle that drives mountainous roads is a disaster waiting to happen ...

Nobody said it was "wrong". But it is a waste of money if there's not a tangible benefit from doing it.

Beyond that, it adds another point of failure.

Your car, your money. But that is beside the point.

Don't you have an oil cooler on your Dark Horse do you track it.

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[roadpilot]

Don't you have an oil cooler on your Dark Horse do you track it.

1. It was not available without the oil cooler.

2. I've barely got it through break in. Who knows.

3. I've already posted in this thread that I was guilty: "I spent more than what I "needed" when I bought the (Dark Horse) Mustang".

 

[Paul's stable]

1. It was not available without the oil cooler.

2. I've barely got it through break in. Who knows.

3. I've already posted in this thread that I was guilty: "I spent more than what I "needed" when I bought the (Dark Horse) Mustang".

Well that makes sense and agree we all payed to much for our Dark Horse and as I live in Canada payed way more than you guy's in the US it like $20,000 more than US list price. However still love it and with the supercharger it really puts a smile on my face. Get out and enjoy yours more.

 

[roadpilot]

Get out and enjoy yours more.

One of my staff is out on PTO this week, so I went into the office all week. Have been able to drive the DH every day so far!

 

[Paul's stable]

One of my staff is out on PTO this week, so I went into the office all week. Have been able to drive the DH every day so far!

Bet you had a smile on your face everyday.

 

[HWill]

A word of CAUTION.......if the said oil cooler unit does not have a thermal bypass you run the risk of running the engine too cold.......many of my Cobra friends just threw FANCY coolers on their BIG MOTOR Replicas and ended up having to block the coolers just to reach normal operating temps.......just saying!!

Exactly. That's why, earlier in this thread, I posted that, as a general rule, 230F to 260F is pretty normal oil temperature for most vehicles. Oil running within normal operating temps improves viscosity, which helps it protect the engine.

If he used as the title suggests the PP Oil Cooler components then this "word of caution" is un-needed.

I don't see any negatives doing this mod. Does it need to be done, IMO no. Will it hurt, not at all.

I have installed oil coolers on many vehicles I had that didn't come stock with them. They suit my driving and the climate I live in.

If I didn't option for PP then I would have been interested in this mod.

 

[roadpilot]

Bet you had a smile on your face everyday.

One of my other guys said, "I bet you enjoy thrashing the Dark Horse every day this week!"

 

[Paul's stable]

One of my other guys said, "I bet you enjoy thrashing the Dark Horse every day this week!"

I'm retired so I wait till 6 or 7 o'clock when traffic dies down then I go out on every sunny day to thrash my baby.

 

[IFFV68]

I spent more than what I "needed" when I bought the Mustang. I do get your point, and I agree with you about the waste in just buying parts simply to say you have them.

If you spend a Ton of money on your Mustang for parts that seem unnecessary such as Oil Coolers, Axle coolers, Tinted Windows. Tires, wheel's, Ceramic coating, etc..
If the Individual wants to spend the money .
Who really cares?
I know members want to help others.
When it comes to Money, it’s very Subjective.
This doesn’t represent union or management.

 

[roadpilot]

If you spend a Ton of money on your Mustang for parts that seem unnecessary such as Oil Coolers, Axle coolers, Tinted Windows. Tires, wheel's, Ceramic coating, etc..
If the Individual wants to spend the money .
Who really cares?
I know members want to help others.
When it comes to Money, it’s very Subjective.
This doesn’t represent union or management.

The discussion isn't whether or not you have money to spend or if you want to spend your money on your car - or whether or not someone does or does not care. It is whether or not a specific purchase provides you with tangible benefits and an actual return on investment.

If you want to spend your money on a raincoat, that's certainly your prerogative.

If you have a lot of money and want to buy a really expensive raincoat, that's your prerogative as well.

But if you're NEVER going to go outside when it's raining, are you seeing a tangible benefit or a good return on investment if you buy a raincoat? No.

 

[Zig]

The discussion isn't whether or not you have money to spend or if you want to spend your money on your car - or whether or not someone does or does not care. It is whether or not a specific purchase provides you with tangible benefits and an actual return on investment.

If you want to spend your money on a raincoat, that's certainly your prerogative.

If you have a lot of money and want to buy a really expensive raincoat, that's your prerogative as well.

But if you're NEVER going to go outside when it's raining, are you seeing a tangible benefit or a good return on investment if you buy a raincoat? No.

 

[IFFV68]

Is it Zig or Roadpiolt selling the Rain Coats no one needs?
I give up. You guys Win.
I’ll just stick with reading the Posts.
I haven’t been on this Forum for any amount of time and still learning the Pecking Order?
I could have used a nice Rain Coat in Pleiku.
“Sin Loy “

 

[steveo1960]

This thread is a hoot! I'm still laughing... To keep on topic though, when I was a teen gearhead I used to hang out a local transmission shop where the owner had a reputation for building performance transmissions, mostly for Chrysler A904 and 727, but others as well. I saw first hand what heat and a slippy, slushbox tranny would look like when it failed. This shop did conversions for the NYC police and taxis where cars were abused but would last close to 500k miles. Heat is bad, to a point. Of course this is tranny stuff not engine oil... Carry on...

 

[RaceRedder]

Well that makes sense and agree we all payed to much for our Dark Horse and as I live in Canada payed way more than you guy's in the US it like $20,000 more than US list price. However still love it and with the supercharger it really puts a smile on my face. Get out and enjoy yours more.

20.000 more than US?

Please guide me through this logic.

 

[Paul's stable]

20.000 more than US?

Please guide me through this logic.

Well the end logic is it makes me happy. My kids will inherit plenty I'm alive and having fun in my retirement. Plus you have to take in the exchange rate and duties and tariffs. So believe it or not things in other places than where you live can cost more.

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