Power steering locked while driving

[johne1952]

Has any one had an issue with thier power steering Sunday while driving all of a sudden the steering locked would no let me steering the car was in Sport mode vehicle has 12000 trouble free miles then this had the car towed to dealer was told I have to wait I purchased 2 vehicles from zMahwah Ford and this service advisor belittled me I asked for a loaner and was told they had none this guy has the brains of a nat and a lousy bed side manor too. Still have no diagnosis. And am paying $95. A day for a rental any ideas? Any one have this issue?

Sponsored

 

[Alan Applegate]

I know this, I'd be on to ford's 800 Customer Service line as quick as I could! This is potentially a death issue!!

 

[fishinrich]

I know this, I'd be on to ford's 800 Customer Service line as quick as I could! This is potentially a death issue!!

So would I.

 

[REV745DH24]

Wow, I would be surprised that if happened to me! Sounded like ticking time bomb thing just to lock the steering wheel up if you’re going 65 or 70 mph! Please inform us all on what the finding culprit is after the inspection! Thanks!

 

[Ryunker]

Has any one had an issue with thier power steering Sunday while driving all of a sudden the steering locked would no let me steering the car was in Sport mode vehicle has 12000 trouble free miles then this had the car towed to dealer was told I have to wait I purchased 2 vehicles from zMahwah Ford and this service advisor belittled me I asked for a loaner and was told they had none this guy has the brains of a nat and a lousy bed side manor too. Still have no diagnosis. And am paying $95. A day for a rental any ideas? Any one have this issue?

Wow this got my attention, so when it "locked up" explain more, speeds, roads, were you straight, around a corner? Please post many more details.

 

[roadpilot]

Has any one had an issue with thier power steering Sunday while driving all of a sudden the steering locked would no let me steering the car was in Sport mode vehicle has 12000 trouble free miles then this had the car towed to dealer was told I have to wait I purchased 2 vehicles from zMahwah Ford and this service advisor belittled me I asked for a loaner and was told they had none this guy has the brains of a nat and a lousy bed side manor too. Still have no diagnosis. And am paying $95. A day for a rental any ideas? Any one have this issue?

How did you pull off the road if you couldn't steer?

Why does the dealership owe you a free loaner vehicle?

 

[Skye]

For reference purposes, I'm attaching some information on Ford's EPAS, the Electric Power Assisted Steering; it relies on physical components, electronic connections, software and modules.

The acronyms help in understanding the Ford document. Modern cars are software and electronic-dense..

ABS - Anti-Lock Brake System
ACK - ACKnowledgment (See CAN message format, ISO 11898)
ACM - Audio Front Control Module (DACMC, Radio, CD, Speakers)
AM - Amplitude Modulated
ANC - Active Noise Cancelling
APIM - Accessory Protocol Interface Module (SYNC, steering controls, radio, NAV)
BCM - Body Control Module
BCMA - BCM (Interior, right side, near floor)
BCMB - BCM (Trunk, right side, near wheel well)
BECMB - Battery Energy Control Module B (RCM, SRS. Turns off fuel in crash.)
BLIS - Blind Spot Information System
BMS - Battery Management System
CAN - Controller Area Network (See also LIN)
CCA - Cold Cranking Amps
CCM - Cruise Control Module
CIP - Consumer Interface Protocol
CPA - Connector Position Assurance (SRS, airbag connector tabs)
CRC - Cyclic Redundancy Check (See CAN message format, ISO 11898)
DAB - Digital Audio Broadcasting
DACMC - Digital Audio Control Module-C (ACM, Radio, CD, Speakers)
DCSM - Dual Climate Seat Module (Seating Climate Control)
DCT - Dual-Clutch Transmission (Paired, electronically-controlled manuals)
DDM - Driver Door Module (Keyless Entry)
DIAG1 - A physical link, connecting LHD and RHD DLC/GWMs
DIAG2 - A physical link, connecting LHD and RHD DLC/GWMs
DLC - DataLink Connector (OBDII, GWM, both LHD and RHD)
DSM - Driver Seat Module (Seat Memory, Power)
DSP - Audio Digital Signal Processor (DSP) Module
DTC - Diagnostic Trouble Code. The fault code/s, seen by a OBDII scan tool
ECM - Engine Control Module (PCM)
ECU - Engine Control Unit (PCM)
EOF - End Of Frame (See CAN message format, ISO 11898)
EMF - ElectroMotive Force
EMI - Electro-Magnetic Interference
FCIM - Front Controls Interface Module (Center Console Push-Button Controls)
FCDIM - Front Controls Display Interface Module (FCIM Outputs)
FDIM - Ford DIsplay Module (Screen Outputs)
FM - Frequency Modulated
GENCOM - Generator Communications
GENMON - Generator Monitoring
GSM - Gear Shift Module (GT500 Only)
GWM - GateWay Module (DLC, OBDII, LHD and RHD)
HS-CAN - High-Speed Controller Area Network (1,2,3 and 4)
Acronyms (cont.)
HSWM - Heated Steering Wheel Module
HUD - Head-Up Display Module
HVAC - Heating, Ventilation, Air Conditioning
ICM - Information Center Module
ID - IDentifier (See CAN message format, ISO 11898)
IPC - Instrument Panel Cluster
IPMA - Image Processing Module A (Camera, Lane Departure)
ISO - International Organization for Standardization (See CAN message, ISO 11898)
LHD - Left-Hand Drive (DLC, GWM, LHD and RHD OBDII linked via DIAG1 and 2)
LIN - Local Interconnect Network (low-cost, low-speed, low-reliability CAN supplement)
LVDS - Low Voltage Differential Signaling
MRCMA - Movable Roof Control Module, Primary (Convertible Roof)
MRCMB - Movable Roof Control Module, Secondary (Convertible Roof)
MS-CAN - Medium-Speed Controller Area Network
OBDII - On-Board Diagnostics, Gen 2 (DLC, GWM)
OCS - Occupant Classification System (Passenger Seat Only)
OCSM - Occupant Classification Systems Module (Passenger Sitting Detect)
OLM - Oil Life Monitor
PAM - Parking Assist Control Module (Backup Assist, Parking Assist)
PCM - Powertrain Control Module
PDM - Passenger Door Module (Keyless Entry)
PMI - Programmable Module Installation
PSCM - Power Steering Control Module
PWM - Pulse Width Modulation
RCM - Restraint Control Module (Seatbelt, SRS, Crash Detect)
RHD - Right-Hand Drive (DLC, GWM, LHD and RHD OBDII linked via DIAG1 and 2)
RPM - Revolutions Per Minute
RTM - Radio/Remote Transceiver Module (keyless entry, TPMS, remote start)
SCCM - Steering Column Control Module (High Beams, Turn Signals)
SCME - Seat Climate-controlled Module - E
SDL - Smart Device Link (Infotainment connectivity protocol, apps, systems)
SIM - Subscriber Identity Module
SoC - State of Charge
SODL - Side Obstacle Detection Control Module LH (BLIS)
SODR - Side Obstacle Detection Control Module RH (BLIS)
SOF - Start Of Frame (See CAN message format, ISO 11898)
SRS - Supplemental Restraint System
SUMB - Vehicle Dynamics Control Module (VDM, Magneride)
TCM - Transmission Control Module (In GT500, a dedicated unit, attached to trans)
TCU - Telematics Control Unit
TCU - Transmission Control Unit (In GT500, a dedicated unit, attached to trans)
TPMS - Tire Pressure Monitoring System
TTS - Text To Speech
VAC - Voltage Alternating Current
Acronyms (cont.)
VDC - Voltage Direct Current
VDM - Vehicle Dynamics Control Module (Magneride)
VIN - Vehicle Identification Number
VIP - Vehicle Interface Protocol
VPWR - Vehicle PoWeR (PCM manages power needs)
VQM - Voltage Quality Module ("smoothes" voltage to components)

 

[Zig]

For reference purposes, I'm attaching some information on Ford's EPAS, the Electric Power Assisted Steering; it relies on physical components, electronic connections, software and modules.

The acronyms help in understanding the Ford document. Modern cars are software and electronic-dense..

ABS - Anti-Lock Brake System
ACK - ACKnowledgment (See CAN message format, ISO 11898)
ACM - Audio Front Control Module (DACMC, Radio, CD, Speakers)
AM - Amplitude Modulated
ANC - Active Noise Cancelling
APIM - Accessory Protocol Interface Module (SYNC, steering controls, radio, NAV)
BCM - Body Control Module
BCMA - BCM (Interior, right side, near floor)
BCMB - BCM (Trunk, right side, near wheel well)
BECMB - Battery Energy Control Module B (RCM, SRS. Turns off fuel in crash.)
BLIS - Blind Spot Information System
BMS - Battery Management System
CAN - Controller Area Network (See also LIN)
CCA - Cold Cranking Amps
CCM - Cruise Control Module
CIP - Consumer Interface Protocol
CPA - Connector Position Assurance (SRS, airbag connector tabs)
CRC - Cyclic Redundancy Check (See CAN message format, ISO 11898)
DAB - Digital Audio Broadcasting
DACMC - Digital Audio Control Module-C (ACM, Radio, CD, Speakers)
DCSM - Dual Climate Seat Module (Seating Climate Control)
DCT - Dual-Clutch Transmission (Paired, electronically-controlled manuals)
DDM - Driver Door Module (Keyless Entry)
DIAG1 - A physical link, connecting LHD and RHD DLC/GWMs
DIAG2 - A physical link, connecting LHD and RHD DLC/GWMs
DLC - DataLink Connector (OBDII, GWM, both LHD and RHD)
DSM - Driver Seat Module (Seat Memory, Power)
DSP - Audio Digital Signal Processor (DSP) Module
DTC - Diagnostic Trouble Code. The fault code/s, seen by a OBDII scan tool
ECM - Engine Control Module (PCM)
ECU - Engine Control Unit (PCM)
EOF - End Of Frame (See CAN message format, ISO 11898)
EMF - ElectroMotive Force
EMI - Electro-Magnetic Interference
FCIM - Front Controls Interface Module (Center Console Push-Button Controls)
FCDIM - Front Controls Display Interface Module (FCIM Outputs)
FDIM - Ford DIsplay Module (Screen Outputs)
FM - Frequency Modulated
GENCOM - Generator Communications
GENMON - Generator Monitoring
GSM - Gear Shift Module (GT500 Only)
GWM - GateWay Module (DLC, OBDII, LHD and RHD)
HS-CAN - High-Speed Controller Area Network (1,2,3 and 4)
Acronyms (cont.)
HSWM - Heated Steering Wheel Module
HUD - Head-Up Display Module
HVAC - Heating, Ventilation, Air Conditioning
ICM - Information Center Module
ID - IDentifier (See CAN message format, ISO 11898)
IPC - Instrument Panel Cluster
IPMA - Image Processing Module A (Camera, Lane Departure)
ISO - International Organization for Standardization (See CAN message, ISO 11898)
LHD - Left-Hand Drive (DLC, GWM, LHD and RHD OBDII linked via DIAG1 and 2)
LIN - Local Interconnect Network (low-cost, low-speed, low-reliability CAN supplement)
LVDS - Low Voltage Differential Signaling
MRCMA - Movable Roof Control Module, Primary (Convertible Roof)
MRCMB - Movable Roof Control Module, Secondary (Convertible Roof)
MS-CAN - Medium-Speed Controller Area Network
OBDII - On-Board Diagnostics, Gen 2 (DLC, GWM)
OCS - Occupant Classification System (Passenger Seat Only)
OCSM - Occupant Classification Systems Module (Passenger Sitting Detect)
OLM - Oil Life Monitor
PAM - Parking Assist Control Module (Backup Assist, Parking Assist)
PCM - Powertrain Control Module
PDM - Passenger Door Module (Keyless Entry)
PMI - Programmable Module Installation
PSCM - Power Steering Control Module
PWM - Pulse Width Modulation
RCM - Restraint Control Module (Seatbelt, SRS, Crash Detect)
RHD - Right-Hand Drive (DLC, GWM, LHD and RHD OBDII linked via DIAG1 and 2)
RPM - Revolutions Per Minute
RTM - Radio/Remote Transceiver Module (keyless entry, TPMS, remote start)
SCCM - Steering Column Control Module (High Beams, Turn Signals)
SCME - Seat Climate-controlled Module - E
SDL - Smart Device Link (Infotainment connectivity protocol, apps, systems)
SIM - Subscriber Identity Module
SoC - State of Charge
SODL - Side Obstacle Detection Control Module LH (BLIS)
SODR - Side Obstacle Detection Control Module RH (BLIS)
SOF - Start Of Frame (See CAN message format, ISO 11898)
SRS - Supplemental Restraint System
SUMB - Vehicle Dynamics Control Module (VDM, Magneride)
TCM - Transmission Control Module (In GT500, a dedicated unit, attached to trans)
TCU - Telematics Control Unit
TCU - Transmission Control Unit (In GT500, a dedicated unit, attached to trans)
TPMS - Tire Pressure Monitoring System
TTS - Text To Speech
VAC - Voltage Alternating Current
Acronyms (cont.)
VDC - Voltage Direct Current
VDM - Vehicle Dynamics Control Module (Magneride)
VIN - Vehicle Identification Number
VIP - Vehicle Interface Protocol
VPWR - Vehicle PoWeR (PCM manages power needs)
VQM - Voltage Quality Module ("smoothes" voltage to components)

How’d ya get that far into it an still keep the nails clean

 

[Zig]

How did you pull off the road if you couldn't steer?

Why does the dealership owe you a free loaner vehicle?

Right, i can kinda understand the system counter steering (trying to keep on road/in lane) and i can comprehend loss of power steering making it more difficult to steer at low speed but having it lock would be disastrous.

Sponsored