Need someone to 3D print a set of these (just deeper to get rid of the restrictive grill vents).

[D/\rK•650]

I understand what what you mean. My opinion is you should take it to someone that can do this for you if you cant. I just have a feeling this might turn into an extremely hard project. Look i wish you all the best with it. Thats just my thoughts.

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[Sofa King]

So is it just the CF finish you don't want? They can be painted. Or do you need it modified? There are lots of places on the internet that do 3d printing for decent prices... you could try that if you can't find anyone here.

 

[Garcia172]

You will Dremel the portions off with the bumper assembly while on the vehicle? That might be pretty hard no?

Yep... right on the car. Then if I can a get of these trim pieces modified to extend into the air intake ducting, you won't see the cuts.

 

[Garcia172]

So is it just the CF finish you don't want? They can be painted. Or do you need it modified? There are lots of places on the internet that do 3d printing for decent prices... you could try that if you can't find anyone here.

I would have them painted the gloss black that matches the grill now.

I figured I'd ask here. If not, I'll buy a set of these covers (which already extend in somewhat), have them scanned, then modified to extend further in, into the air intake ducting.. and have them 3D printed. If I do that I need to get a pair of the OEM air intake ducts somewhere....

 

[rbuike]

The GT grill, where the intake connects, need to go. I want to Dremel it out, but I don't want it to look crappy.

I saw these on Amazon. I don't care about the carbon look. I want it in high gloss black like the OEM look. But if someone could make a set of these that extended past the grill so that you wouldn't see the cut marks... wow. We could open up the grill air intakes with "whatever" and stick these on that extended past the cuts... and you basically would have DH openings with no cut marks. Sell them in high gloss black. You'd sell a ton of them!




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Do you have the 3D print files? There are a few online services if you do. If you don’t it’s a pretty time consuming scan, clean, test process.

 

[Garcia172]

So here's a post (screen shot) from a well known member here. As you can see the difference between a bone stock car with air box lids on vs airbox lids off results in +5rwhp on the dyno. It's not huge I know but that shows you exactly what the GT grill is costing you HP wise. Now combine that with his air filters and you're at +12rwhp. And with carbon trap removal, it's gonna be more (prob very closes 500hp at the crank).

All very trivial modifications to net around 14HP at the crank + what every carbon trap removal yields.

Do you have the 3D print files? There are a few online services if you do. If you don’t it’s a pretty time consuming scan, clean, test process.

No. I know zero (other than reading up on both scanning & printing). How long does it take to scan the parts to generate the necessary base file for what ever software (solid works?) needed to modify the design? Software engineer back ground but zero in this field.

Maybe it's easier and faster to just take one and physically modify it with fiberglass to make a jig then to make a mold out of it and just do it out of fiberglass. I have fiberglass guys that can do it pretty easily (they've done a lot of our race car parts in the past).

 

[MattScopes]

To have someone create a model, print it, and do the finishing on it to look near perfect in a smooth and shiny gloss black is probably going to cost you more than you’d think. It will for sure be significantly more than the amazon listing unless someone decides to do this out of the goodness of their heart.You would be better off buying those covers on amazon unless you are willing to shell out several times that much money for the work that would go into this.

Also, thought I’d mention, I have seen others just hollow out the solid hexes with success if you haven't thought about that yet.

Keep in mind those dyno numbers you posted for +5 hp are with open vs closed intake boxes, not without the hexes in the grill. An open intake box is quite a bit less restrictive than pulling air in through the grill with no hexes. So if that data is to be 100% reliable and not just margin of error, you would likely be looking at less then +5hp.

With all of that said, others have already chimed in with the same opinions, but I don’t think any of this is worth doing to begin with.

 

[Garcia172]

To have someone create a model, print it, and do the finishing on it to look near perfect in a smooth and shiny gloss black is probably going to cost you more than you’d think. It will for sure be significantly more than the amazon listing unless someone decides to do this out of the goodness of their heart.You would be better off buying those covers on amazon unless you are willing to shell out several times that much money for the work that would go into this.

Also, thought I’d mention, I have seen others just hollow out the solid hexes with success if you haven't thought about that yet.

Keep in mind those dyno numbers you posted for +5 hp are with open vs closed intake boxes, not without the hexes in the grill. An open intake box is quite a bit less restrictive than pulling air in through the grill with no hexes. So if that data is to be 100% reliable and not just margin of error, you would likely be looking at less then +5hp.

With all of that said, others have already chimed in with the same opinions, but I don’t think any of this is worth doing to begin with.

Small things add up. When I'm at our shop next (I'm not living close to it now) I'll get the car on the rollers for a base line. I'm pretty sure with the open grill, air filters, and carbon traps removed I can get close to 20Hp at the wheels, no other changes. We'll see.

The cfm requirements are clear with the only exception of the VE of the engine. No matter the accepted assumed VE, it puts the area greater than the grill openings. Which is for sure why the engine make more power with the lids off. The intake track area(s) are far larger than necessary for the HP no matter the VE. So the grill is the problem.

I'm gonna look at just cutting out the grill (the air intake duct sections) and see if I can do it so it looks good. If not, I've already ordered the what ever you call them... to use them as a template. I'll have our glass guy modify and go from there if necessary.

I'm going to do a flex fuel setup on the car soon. And the calcs are clear the openings are just not big enough in the GT grill. Personally I think it's a good opportunity for someone to fab these and sell them in their business (no I'm not going there)... easy way to cleanly do it w/o pulling the entire front bumper assy.

Anyway... thanks for your input.

 

[D/\rK•650]

Im sure you'll figure it out, you seem pretty determined to get this going.

 

[Garcia172]

Im sure you'll figure it out, you seem pretty determined to get this going.

Thx... personally... I look at the tiny openings on the grill and am like.. wtf? I get the fleet reduced .cd stuff... but It's a V8 GT. I feel cheated lol.

 

[MattScopes]

Thx... personally... I look at the tiny openings on the grill and am like.. wtf? I get the fleet reduced .cd stuff... but It's a V8 GT. I feel cheated lol.

I do have to agree here, not sure what the exact reason was behind it and would be interested to know what the real reason was from the actual engineers behind it for blocking off half of the intake if not just for a miniscule amount of fuel economy or even just to neuter it compared to the dark horse. But I guess you are onto something though if you are looking to get every bit of horsepower out of the car. Good luck.

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