Hybrid Mustang (S650E) is on the Horizon!

[Gregs24]

Make it AWD por favor

Platform doesn't support AWD

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[Gregs24]

Some people have brought up weight, that's a valid concern, but let me point out my maverick hybrid is a truck that's a foot longer than a mustang, significantly taller, with 4 doors, made out of mostly steel, with a hybrid system, and it weighs 3,700 lbs. Yes, the engine is a lot smaller, so that helps, but again, the truck is also a lot bigger with more interior materials.

So a hybrid doesn't have to be super heavy by default, nor would a light hybrid be super expensive to engineer, my truck with options and sales tax was 28k.

I know it's apples to oranges, but I'm merely using the maverick to prove Ford knows how to create a compelling hybrid that's not super heavy or expensive. Have a little faith.

My guess is this will be one of those rumors that manifests in the next gen platform where we'll hopefully get a new platform, at least I hope so.

A FHEV would add around 100kg as per my post above - mainly the small battery and the electric motor added to the 10R80. Ford have all of this already so I would be amazed if this isn't what they are running. Of course this could be added to both the V8 and Ecoboost as they share the current 10R80. The battery could go in the spare wheel well if not under the seat.

10R80MHT Gears Magazine - The Ford 10R80MHT Hybrid Unit: How It Works and What's Inside There

Gears Magazine - The Ford 10R80MHT Hybrid Unit: How It Works and What's Inside There

 

[Gregs24]

Ok, I am by no means an engineer, or even half the mechanic as some of the people on here, but still. So according to our Google AI Overlord, the difference in weight from the Maverick Hybrid FWD and the Maverick Ecoboost FWD, and yes they have different ICE engines, but still, is only 110 lbs.

So if you were to tell me that I could get an extra couple of hundred HP to the front wheels and only add say even 200 lbs of mass in motors and batteries (that can be put under the trunk), to my GT, I'd consider that.

It isn't really the power it is the torque of the electric motor from zero that counts. The system from Schaeffler is 47bhp but will have a lot more torque than that, an ideal combination with a normally aspirated engine. As I said above, Ford already have this system so it will surely be the one being developed / tested.

The current platform wouldn't support AWD or anything on the front wheels.

 

[Gregs24]

I did mention in another thread about Ford switching to aluminum for the Mustang. That would save a couple of hundred pounds give or take?

Some of the body already is aluminium. It is a steel platform so other than doors there is not much else they can do.

 

[Gregs24]

Out of curiosity, how much weight would Ford pull from the mustang if they cut out some NVH materials? It would save weight, save cost, and sports car buyers would actually appreciate a little more noise and vibration unlike most car owners, it would make for a more visceral driving experience.

If Ford can find areas to cut and save weight, and come out with a mustang hybrid that's pretty comparable in weight to the current mustang, because they saved weight in other areas prior to adding the hybrid system, that would be a massive win. Having a similar weight, with all the advantages of a AWD hybrid system would be incredible.

The Mustang is far from top of the class when it comes to NVH so taking it out would be very unlikely.

 

[Zig]

A FHEV would add around 100kg as per my post above - mainly the small battery and the electric motor added to the 10R80. Ford have all of this already so I would be amazed if this isn't what they are running. Of course this could be added to both the V8 and Ecoboost as they share the current 10R80. The battery could go in the spare wheel well if not under the seat.

10R80MHT Gears Magazine - The Ford 10R80MHT Hybrid Unit: How It Works and What's Inside There

Gears Magazine - The Ford 10R80MHT Hybrid Unit: How It Works and What's Inside There

Like this:

 

[Farmer Fran]

Ok...I'll play.

It is already a 4000lb car.
It is already front heavy at 53/47

So lets drop 300+ lbs on the front so we can go really fast in a straight line

Woohoo

 

[LouG]

Rather than focus on an individual, we need to look at the buyers trends. Their buying preferences mean hybrid power trains are here to stay (regardless of individual V8 bias). Electric vehicles have a unique niche and are here to stay as well, albeit in a relatively-small market segment. There is another trend which will tear at the heart strings of fast vehicle drivers; the eventual switch away from manual trannies. No need for 'over my dead body' statements as the handwriting is on the wall as it were.

Just another step on the way to battery farmed people.

 

[LouG]

I sure wish someone would name the almighty perfect and great car manufacturer without problems, recalls, and bad dealers. I really want to know who this car maker is. Not many people seem to understand the complexity of designing, manufacturing and selling a car to the public. I do since I was once over a Ford Tier 1 supplier. Their competition has the exact same problems and successes. It also never ceases to amaze me how people knowingly buy a car that isn't perfect then get on forums and bash them. Go figure.

I would love to see them deal with your average 60's British crapmobile.

 

[LouG]

Autonomous vehicles have been dreamed about for centuries

Smart donkeys?

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Some of the body already is aluminium. It is a steel platform so other than doors there is not much else they can do.

Far as I know the only aluminum piece in the body is the hood. So you could do way more than just the doors.

That said, the expense of aluminum materials would just increase the cost of the car and everyone to bitch about that too.

 

[LouG]

Seems you disagree with the question: would an electric turbo qualify?

does the emblem indicate hybrid powertrain or simply hybrid?

Now I've gotcha. Park your e turbo equipped car in EV/hybrid parking places.

 

[LouG]

Luckily, due to my age, I will never have to buy a hybrid/EV when they're the only things available.
The very idea of a hyper expensive battery replacement, not to mention all the extra electronic systems is anathema to me. The idea of throw away cars strikes me as insane.
It's why I bought a relatively simple ICE car.

 

[Zig]

Luckily, due to my age, I will never have to buy a hybrid/EV when they're the only things available.
The very idea of a hyper expensive battery replacement, not to mention all the extra electronic systems is anathema to me. The idea of throw away cars strikes me as insane.
It's why I bought a relatively simple ICE car.

Pardon the interruption but why the doom and gloom. I know another that repeats something similar, in reference to last house and roots. Why the anticipation of the end and not the desire to continue? I mean i understand mortality and all but still why quit before being forced?

 

[RedRocket]

An AWD Hybrid was once teased for the S550z

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