Hybrid Mustang (S650E) is on the Horizon!

[Zig]

Your time scales are a little out

DaVinci was how long ago?

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[Zig]

Which is something completely different!

An e-turbo as used for example by AMG doesn't in itself create a hybrid propulsion system for the car. It just improves turbo response. By definition a hybrid uses two or more distinct types of power such as ICE and electric to power the vehicle. In the case of the e-turbo the e-turbo itself cannot directly power the car only boost the ICE and so doesn't qualify as a hybrid propulsion system.

https://www.garrettmotion.com/news/...ce-efficiency-in-advanced-hybrid-powertrains/

 

[Gregs24]

How could anyone be excited about this

How could anybody not be excited about this? Having driven hybrids including performance cars it is a compelling solution going forward. Freedom of choice is what it is called.

 

[Gregs24]

https://www.garrettmotion.com/news/...ce-efficiency-in-advanced-hybrid-powertrains/

Correct. An e-turbo can be added to a hybrid, but an e-turbo itself is NOT a hybrid.

The title of the article you posted makes that very clear.

Try for yourself......

Google: is an e-turbo a hybrid

Answer: An e-turbo is not a type of hybrid vehicle, but rather a component that enhances existing hybrid powertrains and other advanced engine systems.

 

[Zig]

Correct. An e-turbo can be added to a hybrid, but an e-turbo itself is NOT a hybrid.

The title of the article you posted makes that very clear.

Try for yourself......

Google: is an e-turbo a hybrid

Answer: An e-turbo is not a type of hybrid vehicle, but rather a component that enhances existing hybrid powertrains and other advanced engine systems.

Component that is combined to create a hybrid

 

[Gregs24]

Component that is combined to create a hybrid

A hybrid turbo NOT a hybrid car.

The answer and evidence is clear and obvious and I have presented it to you with links to back it up. It is pointless arguing about it or reinventing a definition just for yourself. I will not discuss any further as you are just trolling now.

 

[Zig]

A hybrid turbo NOT a hybrid car.

The answer and evidence is clear and obvious and I have presented it to you with links to back it up. It is pointless arguing about it or reinventing a definition just for yourself. I will not discuss any further as you are just trolling now.

Seems you disagree with the question: would an electric turbo qualify?

does the emblem indicate hybrid powertrain or simply hybrid?

 

[DeluxeStang]

How could anyone be excited about this

Because they understand car engineering, that's how. We all know the 5.0 is a monster at higher RPMs but isn't as punchy down low. A 5.0 paired with the instant peak torque from an electric motor paired with the super quick shifting 10 speed would make the mustangs pretty much impossible to beat stock for stock by any car in their price point.

 

[HuggiePacino]

Make it AWD por favor

 

[Zig]

A hybrid turbo NOT a hybrid car.

The answer and evidence is clear and obvious and I have presented it to you with links to back it up. It is pointless arguing about it or reinventing a definition just for yourself. I will not discuss any further as you are just trolling now.

 

[DeluxeStang]

Some people have brought up weight, that's a valid concern, but let me point out my maverick hybrid is a truck that's a foot longer than a mustang, significantly taller, with 4 doors, made out of mostly steel, with a hybrid system, and it weighs 3,700 lbs. Yes, the engine is a lot smaller, so that helps, but again, the truck is also a lot bigger with more interior materials.

So a hybrid doesn't have to be super heavy by default, nor would a light hybrid be super expensive to engineer, my truck with options and sales tax was 28k.

I know it's apples to oranges, but I'm merely using the maverick to prove Ford knows how to create a compelling hybrid that's not super heavy or expensive. Have a little faith.

My guess is this will be one of those rumors that manifests in the next gen platform where we'll hopefully get a new platform, at least I hope so.

 

[DeluxeStang]

Out of curiosity, how much weight would Ford pull from the mustang if they cut out some NVH materials? It would save weight, save cost, and sports car buyers would actually appreciate a little more noise and vibration unlike most car owners, it would make for a more visceral driving experience.

If Ford can find areas to cut and save weight, and come out with a mustang hybrid that's pretty comparable in weight to the current mustang, because they saved weight in other areas prior to adding the hybrid system, that would be a massive win. Having a similar weight, with all the advantages of a AWD hybrid system would be incredible.

 

[Alan Applegate]

I did mention in another thread about Ford switching to aluminum for the Mustang. That would save a couple of hundred pounds give or take?

 

[smurfslayer]

You definitely have a beef. Just curious what the bias is based on, as you never offer details to back up the argument.

A real beef involves both parties, and almost always ends in bloodshed. Think Biggie & Tupac.
Obama & Bin Laden. Trump & Soleimani.

Forum bítching really isn't a beef.
Just sayin'

 

[Aggie1999]

Some people have brought up weight, that's a valid concern, but let me point out my maverick hybrid is a truck that's a foot longer than a mustang, significantly taller, with 4 doors, made out of mostly steel, with a hybrid system, and it weighs 3,700 lbs. Yes, the engine is a lot smaller, so that helps, but again, the truck is also a lot bigger with more interior materials.

Ok, I am by no means an engineer, or even half the mechanic as some of the people on here, but still. So according to our Google AI Overlord, the difference in weight from the Maverick Hybrid FWD and the Maverick Ecoboost FWD, and yes they have different ICE engines, but still, is only 110 lbs.

So if you were to tell me that I could get an extra couple of hundred HP to the front wheels and only add say even 200 lbs of mass in motors and batteries (that can be put under the trunk), to my GT, I'd consider that.

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