Fire extinguisher mounts options

[porkrind427]

I am ordering new extinguishers for my all my vehicles and my house, but I would like to find a nice Driver B Pillar mount, passenger trans tunnel mount or at minimum front of driver seat mount. Trying to avoid any cutting or drilling if possible. Found a few that tie into the pass seat mount for pre 24 but they were all out of stock. What are you running? Any suggestions? (No chemistry talk please, not what I am asking)

Running a 24 GT Premium coupe if any of that matters.

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[Doug Watson]

Have a look at this site I have one for all my cars in the glove box.

Element - Fire Extinguishers – Element Fire Extinguishers

 

[steveo1960]

Have a look at this site I have one for all my cars in the glove box.

Element - Fire Extinguishers – Element Fire Extinguishers

Perfect timing! I was just about to post asking for advice. I have these in my house but they have a maximum storage temperature of 120 degrees which rules it out for storing in a hot car.

https://preparedhero.com/products/hero-fire-spray

I'm going to take a look at your suggestion.
Thanks!

 

[RLE55]

I currently have small extinguishers in the trunk and in cavity under back seat of truck. For quick access, by me or safety officials, I had my Halon extinguisher (in race car) mounted on floor board in front of where drivers seat would be.

 

[JPGC_S650]

Have a look at this site I have one for all my cars in the glove box.

Element - Fire Extinguishers – Element Fire Extinguishers

Thanks for the link. Can't beat the size/weight for an extinguisher. Have you ever personally tried one out/ tested one. I see the videos on the site, just asking someone who isn't affiliated with them?

 

[Doug Watson]

Thanks for the link. Can't beat the size/weight for an extinguisher. Have you ever personally tried one out/ tested one. I see the videos on the site, just asking someone who isn't affiliated with them?

Yes works great.

 

[MCS]

Are you guys looking at this from an aesthetic perspective or from a functional safety one?

Street car or Race car?

 

[porkrind427]

Are you guys looking at this from an aesthetic perspective or from a functional safety one?

Street car or Race car?

Its for my daily driver. If I am being honest, both. I really like the B pillar look, but I also want to not have one rolling around in my trunk where I would need to spend time digging for it when seconds count.

 

[MCS]

Ok, let me caution you on getting these for the sake of actual real world use.

• The form factor is too small to give you more than 3-10 seconds of full spray in a PASS style discharge. The more compact ones are designed for incipient stage fires. For anything larger it would be like putting a single Disney Bandaid on someone with a 6 inch laceration on their head.
  
  
• Putting these things in a street car, which Steveo already pointed out, will expose them to temps beyond their upper threshold. When that happens they tend to rupture. Sometimes violently. You are basically putting a bomb in the cabin of your vehicle.

Unless trained on dealing with A, B, C or K class fires, the last thing someone should do is run around with an underpowered extinguisher trying to save their car. A vehicle has oils, fuels, electrical and rubber/petroleum products that all burn differently and are extinguished with different agents/methods.

But WAIT! I haven't even gotten to the good stuff yet! The byproducts of combustion differences between the various fires from a vehicle and how breathing that in, even lightly, is no bueno for your health! There is a reason firefighters wear full SCBA and masks while showing up to an MVC scene.

Your best bet, in the event of a vehicle fire, on the street, is to GTFO and get a bag of hot dogs and a stick to roast them.

 

[JPGC_S650]

Ok, let me caution you on getting these for the sake of actual real world use.

• The form factor is too small to give you more than 3-10 seconds of full spray in a PASS style discharge. The more compact ones are designed for incipient stage fires. For anything larger it would be like putting a single Disney Bandaid on someone with a 6 inch laceration on their head.
  
  
• Putting these things in a street car, which Steveo already pointed out, will expose them to temps beyond their upper threshold. When that happens they tend to rupture. Sometimes violently. You are basically putting a bomb in the cabin of your vehicle.

Unless trained on dealing with A, B, C or K class fires, the last thing someone should do is run around with an underpowered extinguisher trying to save their car. A vehicle has oils, fuels, electrical and rubber/petroleum products that all burn differently and are extinguished with different agents/methods.

But WAIT! I haven't even gotten to the good stuff yet! The byproducts of combustion differences between the various fires from a vehicle and how breathing that in, even lightly, is no bueno for your health! There is a reason firefighters wear full SCBA and masks while showing up to an MVC scene.

Your best bet, in the event of a vehicle fire, on the street, is to GTFO and get a bag of hot dogs and a stick to roast them.

For my sake, there are some events like car shows that require fire extinguishers. So, i am likely to query the event coordinators to see if these are allowed. If not, then a normal/ small extinguisher will be fine. About the same price either way, just the Element is much more compact. I don't race at a track or strip that requires an extinguisher. So, for me, it would be mostly aesthetic, though can't say I wouldn't attempt to use it in the event of an emergency if I had it with me.
According to their site:

• MAKES NO MESS / LEAVES NO RESIDUE & ECO-FRIENDLY
  No mess, non-toxic, non-corrosive, environmentally friendly
  
  
• ZERO PRESSURE DISCHARGE
  Will not spread oil & liquid fires
  
  
• SAFE & MAINTENANCE-FREE
  No moving parts or compressed gas to ever service
  
  
• WEATHERPROOF and unaffected by extreme temperature, humidity, or vibration. Safe to store in wet environments.
  Element can safely be stored in vehicles that live in hot climates

Sooo, who knows if that info has been tested and is true. I personally have enough sense to not attempt to handle a fire/ situation that requires more. I can't speak for others though, lol.

 

[GT-24]

Ok, let me caution you on getting these for the sake of actual real world use.

• The form factor is too small to give you more than 3-10 seconds of full spray in a PASS style discharge. The more compact ones are designed for incipient stage fires. For anything larger it would be like putting a single Disney Bandaid on someone with a 6 inch laceration on their head.
  
  
• Putting these things in a street car, which Steveo already pointed out, will expose them to temps beyond their upper threshold. When that happens they tend to rupture. Sometimes violently. You are basically putting a bomb in the cabin of your vehicle.

Unless trained on dealing with A, B, C or K class fires, the last thing someone should do is run around with an underpowered extinguisher trying to save their car. A vehicle has oils, fuels, electrical and rubber/petroleum products that all burn differently and are extinguished with different agents/methods.

But WAIT! I haven't even gotten to the good stuff yet! The byproducts of combustion differences between the various fires from a vehicle and how breathing that in, even lightly, is no bueno for your health! There is a reason firefighters wear full SCBA and masks while showing up to an MVC scene.

Your best bet, in the event of a vehicle fire, on the street, is to GTFO and get a bag of hot dogs and a stick to roast them.

On your way to GTFO make sure the hood is up, doors open, and trunk open. Then grab the hot dogs. You want your baby to cremate itself prior to the fire department arrival. You will never get the smoke, burnt smell out of the vehicle should you succeed in successfully putting out the fire of any size.

 

[MCS]

For my sake, there are some events like car shows that require fire extinguishers. So, i am likely to query the event coordinators to see if these are allowed.

Sooo, who knows if that info has been tested and is true. I personally have enough sense to not attempt to handle a fire/ situation that requires more. I can't speak for others though, lol.

Yeah, those types of places require them because it makes their underwriters feel safe. Ask any FPO for any department and they will tell you it's like pissing into a tornado. But do what you gotta do to appease the overlords I guess

Glad to see you've got the sense to let someone with tools, that can dish 450 litres per minute (and higher) of goodness, deal with the situation. Put the wet stuff on the red stuff

On your way to GTFO make sure the hood is up, doors open, and trunk open. Then grab the hot dogs. You want your baby to cremate itself prior to the fire department arrival. You will never get the smoke, burnt smell out of the vehicle should you succeed in successfully putting out the fire of any size.

I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the times I responded to an MVC with some kid trying to douse his engine fire with his large cup of water, or a wet towel, or one of those dry chem extinguishers about the size of a 1L coke bottle. Let it burn dude! Insurance!

Ah the good old days of my youth!

 

[GT-24]

Yeah, those types of places require them because it makes their underwriters feel safe. Ask any FPO for any department and they will tell you it's like pissing into a tornado. But do what you gotta do to appease the overlords I guess

Glad to see you've got the sense to let someone with tools, that can dish 450 litres per minute (and highter) of goodness, deal with the situation. Put the wet stuff on the red stuff



I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the times I responded to an MVC with some kid trying to douse his engine fire with his large cup of water, or a wet towel, or one of those dry chem extinguishers about the size of a 1L coke bottle. Let it burn dude! Insurance!

Ah the good old days of my youth!

Right there with you, 30 years on FD.

 

[porkrind427]

Ok, let me caution you on getting these for the sake of actual real world use.

• The form factor is too small to give you more than 3-10 seconds of full spray in a PASS style discharge. The more compact ones are designed for incipient stage fires. For anything larger it would be like putting a single Disney Bandaid on someone with a 6 inch laceration on their head.
  
  
• Putting these things in a street car, which Steveo already pointed out, will expose them to temps beyond their upper threshold. When that happens they tend to rupture. Sometimes violently. You are basically putting a bomb in the cabin of your vehicle.

Unless trained on dealing with A, B, C or K class fires, the last thing someone should do is run around with an underpowered extinguisher trying to save their car. A vehicle has oils, fuels, electrical and rubber/petroleum products that all burn differently and are extinguished with different agents/methods.

But WAIT! I haven't even gotten to the good stuff yet! The byproducts of combustion differences between the various fires from a vehicle and how breathing that in, even lightly, is no bueno for your health! There is a reason firefighters wear full SCBA and masks while showing up to an MVC scene.

Your best bet, in the event of a vehicle fire, on the street, is to GTFO and get a bag of hot dogs and a stick to roast them.

Food for thought. What you are saying makes sense, but my inner boy scout assures me it's better to be prepared. I have used my trunk first aid kit several times, never related to a car.

 

[BYBO]

I’ve personally put out 2 car engine fires, 1 with jackets and water bottles, the other with a small extinguisher. Both vehicles were able to be saved and driven again.

when I was on the FD, we obviously had more but by the time a truck gets to you the car is pretty much engulfed. I’ll carry a small extinguisher and hope I never need it.

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