smurfslayer
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Thanks for clarifying, that is interesting info and worth some extra research.
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Any reason not to go with Ford Performance Supercharger?
Junkyard Dog
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What about the 2018- 2023 guys running E85? Still? The alcohol sucks a lot of heat out.
Also, is there anywhere to look and see the personal experiences of folks tracking Mustangs with Whipples installed? I honestly do not think anybody here is doing it.
MustangMitch69
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I've been looking into this too, and will probably wait till my factory warranty is up, then buy directly from Whipple or one of the resellers like Lethal Performance or Steeda when they have one of their big sales for 10% or more off, and also have them install it.
10% off $10K is a thousand dollars saved, which can go toward beefing up another part of the Mustang to complement the boost and make the engine better adapted and more reliable or dependable. And in 2 years or so their MSRP will probably drop due to lower demand or new tech, which has been the case with all the whipples in the past.
Can't speak for all the Ford dealerships, but my local one never puts the superchargers on sale, and isnt willing to install a whipple that I don't buy directly from them, which is dumb because it's the exact same part.
10% off $10K is a thousand dollars saved, which can go toward beefing up another part of the Mustang to complement the boost and make the engine better adapted and more reliable or dependable. And in 2 years or so their MSRP will probably drop due to lower demand or new tech, which has been the case with all the whipples in the past.
Can't speak for all the Ford dealerships, but my local one never puts the superchargers on sale, and isnt willing to install a whipple that I don't buy directly from them, which is dumb because it's the exact same part.
Neggytive
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I went thru all the pros and cons last year and decided not to pull the trigger
But if you go Ford Performance there is SOME but not a lot of warranty, and the 810HP at the crank and maybe about 730 ish give or take at the tires is where they decided the limits of reliability were right around there
If anything goes wrong with anything but the Ford Performance kit with the caveat the kit has to be dealer or ASE tech installed ( and registered) you can bet your bottom dollar that under Magnusson-Moss they are going to hand you a letter denying warranty coverage
If you melt the converters solid because they can't take the heat or the flow, you own it.
Don't get me wrong I like Dustin Whipple, and I think he makes a great product, but I am risk adverse and if Ford is saying the reliability is questionable at above 810HP, and they are implying it by their warranty terms, then I am not going to risk a new car's engine on pushing it past that limit.
If you go high HP with a Whipple stage 2, and something goes wrong, do you have the cash for a new or used Gen4 Coyote engine, plus labor and incidentals?
How fast do you want to go is usually followed by how much money do you have.
Even Terry Reeves at Beefcake racing will tell you the more HP you add the sketchier it gets.
Even on the FP kit, they will void their warranty if you add long tube headers and that is the way to keep from melting the Cats, long tube headers and aftermarket high flow cats.
I would suggest looking online for the Ford Performance warranty and understanding what they will cover.
IIRC their max out of their pocket is like $2500 dollars which at a dealership service dept does not last long.
But if you go Ford Performance there is SOME but not a lot of warranty, and the 810HP at the crank and maybe about 730 ish give or take at the tires is where they decided the limits of reliability were right around there
If anything goes wrong with anything but the Ford Performance kit with the caveat the kit has to be dealer or ASE tech installed ( and registered) you can bet your bottom dollar that under Magnusson-Moss they are going to hand you a letter denying warranty coverage
If you melt the converters solid because they can't take the heat or the flow, you own it.
Don't get me wrong I like Dustin Whipple, and I think he makes a great product, but I am risk adverse and if Ford is saying the reliability is questionable at above 810HP, and they are implying it by their warranty terms, then I am not going to risk a new car's engine on pushing it past that limit.
If you go high HP with a Whipple stage 2, and something goes wrong, do you have the cash for a new or used Gen4 Coyote engine, plus labor and incidentals?
How fast do you want to go is usually followed by how much money do you have.
Even Terry Reeves at Beefcake racing will tell you the more HP you add the sketchier it gets.
Even on the FP kit, they will void their warranty if you add long tube headers and that is the way to keep from melting the Cats, long tube headers and aftermarket high flow cats.
I would suggest looking online for the Ford Performance warranty and understanding what they will cover.
IIRC their max out of their pocket is like $2500 dollars which at a dealership service dept does not last long.
REV745DH24
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I had thought about supercharger but I went for Kooks header Jet-Hot coated with AWE mufflers and Steeda induction tubes as seen in my corner! I am happy without the supercharger and of course, the decisions is yours what you want to do with your car! Good luck with your decisions!
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