Any reason not to go with Ford Performance Supercharger?

[smurfslayer]

No. I was going to get one and talked about my use case with Steeda and other vendors. They stated it you want to stay out on the track it is not likely with a supercharged dark horse even with the cooling mods because it will overheat and you won't last the full session.


** In a hot summer environment - which is my case.

Thanks for clarifying, that is interesting info and worth some extra research.

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[Junkyard Dog]

Another note. I know it’s not your use case but just a heads up.

IF you decide to track (road course) there are cooling issues with the supercharged engines. They cannot go very long on road courses at full tilt. You will spend a lot of time letting things cool while everyone else gets laps in.

What about the 2018- 2023 guys running E85? Still? The alcohol sucks a lot of heat out.

Also, is there anywhere to look and see the personal experiences of folks tracking Mustangs with Whipples installed? I honestly do not think anybody here is doing it.

 

[MustangMitch69]

I've been looking into this too, and will probably wait till my factory warranty is up, then buy directly from Whipple or one of the resellers like Lethal Performance or Steeda when they have one of their big sales for 10% or more off, and also have them install it.

10% off $10K is a thousand dollars saved, which can go toward beefing up another part of the Mustang to complement the boost and make the engine better adapted and more reliable or dependable. And in 2 years or so their MSRP will probably drop due to lower demand or new tech, which has been the case with all the whipples in the past.

Can't speak for all the Ford dealerships, but my local one never puts the superchargers on sale, and isnt willing to install a whipple that I don't buy directly from them, which is dumb because it's the exact same part.

 

[gbadger]

What about the 2018- 2023 guys running E85? Still? The alcohol sucks a lot of heat out.

Also, is there anywhere to look and see the personal experiences of folks tracking Mustangs with Whipples installed? I honestly do not think anybody here is doing it.

Not sure. I would call or email Steeda - they were super helpful and could have made a big sale but were honest - which - much respect for.

 

[Cucurú]

I've been looking into this too, and will probably wait till my factory warranty is up, then buy directly from Whipple or one of the resellers like Lethal Performance or Steeda when they have one of their big sales for 10% or more off, and also have them install it.

10% off $10K is a thousand dollars saved, which can go toward beefing up another part of the Mustang to complement the boost and make the engine better adapted and more reliable or dependable. And in 2 years or so their MSRP will probably drop due to lower demand or new tech, which has been the case with all the whipples in the past.

Can't speak for all the Ford dealerships, but my local one never puts the superchargers on sale, and isnt willing to install a whipple that I don't buy directly from them, which is dumb because it's the exact same part.

All the mods you'll need could be from $1600 to $10,000. Depends on how far you want to take it.

 

[tj@steeda]

Happy to help. You can shoot me an email to [email protected] - happy to help!

 

[Neggytive]

I went thru all the pros and cons last year and decided not to pull the trigger

But if you go Ford Performance there is SOME but not a lot of warranty, and the 810HP at the crank and maybe about 730 ish give or take at the tires is where they decided the limits of reliability were right around there

If anything goes wrong with anything but the Ford Performance kit with the caveat the kit has to be dealer or ASE tech installed ( and registered) you can bet your bottom dollar that under Magnusson-Moss they are going to hand you a letter denying warranty coverage

If you melt the converters solid because they can't take the heat or the flow, you own it.

Don't get me wrong I like Dustin Whipple, and I think he makes a great product, but I am risk adverse and if Ford is saying the reliability is questionable at above 810HP, and they are implying it by their warranty terms, then I am not going to risk a new car's engine on pushing it past that limit.

If you go high HP with a Whipple stage 2, and something goes wrong, do you have the cash for a new or used Gen4 Coyote engine, plus labor and incidentals?

How fast do you want to go is usually followed by how much money do you have.

Even Terry Reeves at Beefcake racing will tell you the more HP you add the sketchier it gets.

Even on the FP kit, they will void their warranty if you add long tube headers and that is the way to keep from melting the Cats, long tube headers and aftermarket high flow cats.

I would suggest looking online for the Ford Performance warranty and understanding what they will cover.

IIRC their max out of their pocket is like $2500 dollars which at a dealership service dept does not last long.

 

[REV745DH24]

I had thought about supercharger but I went for Kooks header Jet-Hot coated with AWE mufflers and Steeda induction tubes as seen in my corner! I am happy without the supercharger and of course, the decisions is yours what you want to do with your car! Good luck with your decisions!

 

[gnnut]

500 vs 800 hp, why is this even a question?

 

[krisk]

No. I was going to get one and talked about my use case with Steeda and other vendors. They stated it you want to stay out on the track it is not likely with a supercharged dark horse even with the cooling mods because it will overheat and you won't last the full session.


** In a hot summer environment - which is my case.

I did not speak with any vendors about this, but I was also considering either a Whipple or Procharger, and from my research found the same answer. There is more discussion about this on the trackmustangs forum, but the general consensus is forced induction will result in overheating on the track. That stopped me from pursuing it any further. I want to be able to track my car and not worry about overheating. I’m sure with enough money you could make it work, but it’s not worth the trial and error to me.

 

[Q6543]

Yeah these aren’t meant to be blown road course cars, drag strip 100%.

If you want to road course stay N/A, even that will have overheat issues after awhile.
Best to just go Miata at that point.

 

[smurfslayer]

I would suggest looking online for the Ford Performance warranty and understanding what they will cover.

IIRC their max out of their pocket is like $2500 dollars which at a dealership service dept does not last long.

The F/P whipple and the Whipple stage 1 both have a ‘capped’ warranty 7500 motor, and 2500 trans. half shafts are not covered.

 

[Rocket Man]

I want the dude to tell us how to possibly spend 15-20k+ on cooling mods. ridiculous.

 

[Billycar11]

I want the dude to tell us how to possibly spend 15-20k+ on cooling mods. ridiculous.

Had the HVAC guy put a 3 ton heat pump in the cooling system

 

[robvas]

The F/P whipple and the Whipple stage 1 both have a ‘capped’ warranty 7500 motor, and 2500 trans. half shafts are not covered.

And it's voided if you use octane booster, drag radials, non factory wheels, add headers, done a burnout, are a member of Mustang6G, drink Monster...

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