2024 GT Mustang vs the Dark Horse, How Much H. Power

[IFFV68]

The 2024 GT Mustang is advertised as having 480 H.P.
When adding the Active Exhaust the GT gets 6 more Horses.
Total of 486.
The Dark Horse comes Stock with 500 H.P.
Does the Dark Horse have 494 Horses & after adding the Active Exhaust it adds up to 500?
Or,
Does the Stock Dark Horse have 500 H.P. & adding the Active Exhaust comes up to 506 H.P.?
Just Curious?

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[Zengineer]

Active Valve Exhaust is standard on any and all Dark Horse...sorry, no 6 HP bonus.

 

[Q6543]

The HP difference is in the engine tuning, that is all.
GTs the throttle bodies begin to close at peak rpm.. dark horse stays open higher in the RPMs.

It’s really as simple as that.

 

[Zig]

The 2024 GT Mustang is advertised as having 480 H.P.
When adding the Active Exhaust the GT gets 6 more Horses.
Total of 486.
The Dark Horse comes Stock with 500 H.P.
Does the Dark Horse have 494 Horses & after adding the Active Exhaust it adds up to 500?
Or,
Does the Stock Dark Horse have 500 H.P. & adding the Active Exhaust comes up to 506 H.P.?
Just Curious?

Marketing mystery… it’s the things they tell you and then the things they don’t.

the ‘total’ package (exhaust and diameter, cats, headers, intake, tb(s), air filters, and tune) is tested, each dh comes with ae stock.

maybe the numbers would be different if a dh owner added the gt non ae but not too sure many would go that route, however, 6 hp peak aint gonna make a huge difference (small diff maybe small amount hp small diff). I’m leaning more toward lungs (when does the gt run out of air) / tune.

 

[faser]

Does removing the tree hugger carbon trap or whatever it is called close that HP gap even further?

 

[Zig]

Does removing the tree hugger carbon trap or whatever it is called close that HP gap even further?

I suspect more redline than traps since the dh also has the non serviceable filters, care should be exercised when exorcising inline manipulation devices. It kinda sounds like there have been more codes reported than seat of the pant praise o meter comments, though.

 

[roadpilot]

Does removing the tree hugger carbon trap or whatever it is called close that HP gap even further?

Several YouLube videos about this. Removing the traps does nothing to change performance.

 

[steyr]

Does removing the tree hugger carbon trap or whatever it is called close that HP gap even further?

I read something where they were testing HP changes with the GT by adding different gas, changing things, etc.

They said removing the carbon traps added an extra 4hp bringing the GT to 490hp.

 

[Karguy]

The only thing important is RWHP which includes gearing how much the engine actually puts to the ground and here they pretty much make all the same...500 is definitely on the optimistic side when you compare 2 / 500 hp engines and everyone who has driven or owned one will probably agree...The 500 or 505 hp in a 7 liter C6 Z06 (before they dropped a valve LOL) which could feel violent or threatening in the first 2 gears at least or the 500 hp in a DH which feels pretty tame...

 

[roadpilot]

I read something where they were testing HP changes with the GT by adding different gas, changing things, etc.

They said removing the carbon traps added an extra 4hp bringing the GT to 490hp.

I'd love to know who "they" are. I saw a video that was fairly detailed, and they said there was not enough gain to warrant jacking up the OEM parts.

Basically said "unmeasurable difference" with the traps removed, alone. It was basically a nod to Ford for engineering a carbon trap that didn't cause a limitation.

I think this was the video: *Highest WHP 2024 Mustang Dark Horse?!* 2024 Dark Horse Dyno Carbon Traps Removed (youtube.com)

 

[Q6543]

I'd love to know who "they" are. I saw a video that was fairly detailed, and they said there was not enough gain to warrant jacking up the OEM parts.

Basically said "unmeasurable difference" with the traps removed, alone. It was basically a nod to Ford for engineering a carbon trap that didn't cause a limitation.

I think this was the video: *Highest WHP 2024 Mustang Dark Horse?!* 2024 Dark Horse Dyno Carbon Traps Removed (youtube.com)

He’s referring to JPC fuel test dyno vids.
Carbon trap results get skewed by the TBs closing up top on the GT.

 

[roadpilot]

He’s referring to JPC fuel test dyno vids.
Carbon trap results get skewed by the TBs closing up top on the GT.

Gotcha.

Yea, bottom line, anytime your splitting hairs with HP 'changes' in the single digits (and even in the early double digits), they might as well be honest and call it "no appreciable difference".

 

[IFFV68]

The HP difference is in the engine tuning, that is all.
GTs the throttle bodies begin to close at peak rpm.. dark horse stays open higher in the RPMs.

It’s really as simple as that.

Are you saying if the GT’s Throttle Body would stay open at higher RPMs. The GT would have the same 500 horese power as the Dark Horse? ?
Just use the same Tune as the Dark Horse .
It’s that simple.

 

[young at heart]

Are you saying if the GT’s Throttle Body would stay open at higher RPMs. The GT would have the same 500 horese power as the Dark Horse? ?
Just use the same Tune as the Dark Horse .
It’s that simple.

I don’t know what he’s sayin’ but trust me it’s not simple. You can’t do anything to the tune on these cars. It’s tuned how it is and that’s how it stays.

 

[Q6543]

Yes, the dark horse does not begin to close the throttle bodies until a few hundred rpm higher.

for all HP related purposes the engine is identical.

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