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It's better than paying another $50k on top of that for anything Shelby of America sells!

Update from the Corvette world, the $110k 535hp Grand Sport was only 1.1 second behind the GTD on this course

To be fair it is a $103k car....with $70k worth of carbon fiber and ceramic brakes added. The Carbon package GTD is $428,000 💰

23-30k isn't low mileage for a 2023? That's what, 8k miles a year? Looking at 2023 Broncos there are a ton of 70 and 60k mileage examples for sale. So 20-30k miles is low mileage. We're not looking for a 4k car that's never been driven. Any tuner will tell you to expect 100whp less than he's...

And? The closest one to me for sale is MSRP $94,175, it has about $12k in options (metallic paint, painted hard top, leather buckets, appearance package). Base MSRP is $80,990 so once you add in the options and destination that all makes sense. It'd be $104k before the price cuts last year...

They dropped 60-70k in value from MSRP? Ouch You're talking about the Bronco Raptor that wasn't selling so Ford dropped the price $10k on?

It shouldn't increase, should it? It's the price difference between the GT and the GT500 of the same years. Basically how much more you pay to upgrade. Nothing to do with the prices of the previous years. Used to be 43% higher now it's 55% higher

Prices of the (top model) GT500/DHSC vs the base GT and the 'special' model, and how much of an increase it is to go to the price of the top model

Still sounds sketchy even with the IC, especially on a MD. Anything over 750 is suspect. Guys aren't even cracking 800 with a can of boostane. Just going by what other people are reporting with their stage 2 cars on (mostly) dynojets. Have you run it down the 1/4 or 60-130?

Can't imagine this being any more than a rumor. However let's look at a few things: GM has the LT6 in the Corvette Z06. 670hp, but only 8600 RPM. 90° V8 Displacement 5,463 cc (333.4 cu in) Cylinder bore 104.25 mm (4.104 in) Piston stroke 80 mm (3.1 in) The 5.2 in the GT350 has a...

Over 800 to the tires? Not without octane booster, ethanol, race gas, or some dyno shenanigans you didn't.

Still waiting for track times and not marketing fluff I'm saying that Bigfoot doesn't exist. You're saying Bigfoot exists. Ford also said Bigfoot doesn't exist. You're saying if you search Google for Bigfoot, it will return results. That doesn't make Bigfoot exist. I'm asking for an...

Why can't you just prove the point you're trying to make?

They aren't for track use. That's why you don't see them tested. Shelby didn't bother sending them out. They're garage furniture.

On YouTube There are some Mustangs on the dyno spinning to 9000 RPM, but they don't really sound that different. If you really want to hear something, look up a Holbrook engine or NMRA Mustang, those spin like 10 K.

Please point me to any independent testing of a Shelby modified Mustang where they take it around the track

Those are just bolt-on cars and won't beat a DH SC either. And RTR uses Nitto 555G2 tires :crackup: Ford said it themselves, "Shelby doesn't race."

Doesn't say anything about cooling mods on the site https://www.hennesseyperformance.com/vehicles/mustang-gt-upgrade/

Maybe he thinks he's a Subaru owner

You already said stuff like "refinement". Meaningless. I'm not changing my argument. The very first thing I said was there wasn't any performance improvement over the previous models for the DH, SC, and GT. Not sure why you're taking it personally.