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Same, the wheels and tires look non handling pack. The spoiler looks handling pack. Maybe they dont want to waste the trofeos in testing? Also you can get handling pack without recaros on Mach 1, so maybe that explains it. I think you are right on vapor blue. With the blue Brembos.

Different wheels for this handling pack? Can't tell.

Interesting, reading the 2023 Mach 1 ordering thread, no one has been able to order the HP. Dealers are telling people they aren't available. Wonder what that means for the 2024 timeline.

You will see 480 +-3% on an engine dyno, not a chassis dyno. You have to calculate drivetrain losses for that. Ford is not over rating the engine. Some German manufacturers do tend to under rate theirs, for whatever reasons, but don't expect Ford to.

Well, we are already hearing about how tuned 2021s have more power 🤷‍♂️

Awesome, thanks, I found some more pictures of it, and it doesnt make sense to render a dealer plate like this, so it does look like it is real. Crossing my fingers for this badge package still!

I am saying if it is available, that is what I want. I know that was not the real car, but it is an official picture released by Ford, and I am hoping that they do something like this, maybe a black package. I think it looks better. I hope we see some stripe package etc sooner than later.

I respect what you are saying. The pp gt can't do lap sessions all day without going into limp mode, and the DH should be able to, while matching or beating GT350R times, which I think is good enough for a performance nameplate. It is also the car I plan on buying. If i were just drag racing, I...

I dont know what it will be called, or if it will be around, but yes black hood, wheels, spoiler, mirror caps, badges etc. The picture of the white dark horse has this, while the Blue Ember seems to have lighter colored wheels, badges, and mirror caps. If the option is out for the black, I want...

Both look so good, I really want to see a Dark Horse in Race Red with a Black Accent package and Handling Package....probably the spec I am ordering.

With respect for this thread, here is where we have discussed this in the past, with the M1 HP a few spots above a 16 GT350R. Mach 1 lightning lap

It is a direct replacement for the Mach 1, which was way more than just 20 HP and way more than a Bullitt in 2021. Additionally, the Mach 1 Handling Pack has already bested a GT350R around some tracks in some tests, and I believe the DH will best the Mach 1 HP, so yeah, it's going to give a 7...

I have the same best/worst as you. I was really hoping for an orange.

Porsche tested the tire, but ended up going cup 2 on the production version if i recall correctly. In the tests I have seen, the Trofeo R has been lesser tire in dry traction vs cup 2, with better wet traction. Haven't seen much on the RS version.

I did see some info somewhere stating 2 options, black and also black with blue fibers woven in, assuming for the dark horse appearance package. I cannot remember where i saw it, I'll update if I find it again. Also, the CFTP is 18,500 for 2020 GT500. I would bet the CF wheels are every bit of...

I wonder if we will be able to see the stripe package looks by the time order banks open.

I really wish they would have offered comp, twister, or code orange. It would have been my choice.

I hope you are right, however the sheet stating 2023 mach 1 HP start production in March has me thinking it will be May/June. Anything can happen though.

Wow awesome, Atlas Blue non-handling pack maybe? That may be the first time we have seen either of those options. The wheels looks the same, I can't make our which tires they are. Thank you for sharing! Edit: They are PZero, so for sure this is the non handling pack. Interesting that the wheels...

I took it as saying electric vehicles are toys, they just didn't want to use the mach-e for obvious reasons, and probably didnt want to post a electric dodge.