TURN SIGNAL CLICK CLICK.....AAAAAAGGGGG

[abercul]

I’m not jumping in that puddle.

um, how long do you signal? Or you guys parking with flashers on , sorry couldn’t resist. It does do the three flash thing, tilt up/down but release before lock and it will only blink three times.

Honestly I haven't even got in the car since then.

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[roket]

the turn signal is absolutely normal. it's mandatory to have it there.

Why?

Because our friends at the Federal government said so

Same reason the high beam indicator has to be blue

I believe it is covered in FMVSS section 101, which also specifies a audible noise for turn signal failure ( fast clicking noise ) but it might be in FMVSS section 108

Anytime you ask why something is "that way" on your car, chances are there is some facet of the FMVSS that made them make the car that way to appease the Feds.

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/subtitle-B/chapter-V/part-571/subpart-B/section-571.108

these are both false. FMVSS says this:

S9.3 Turn signal pilot indicator.


S9.3.1 Each vehicle equipped with a turn signal operating unit where any turn signal lamp is not visible to the driver must also have an illuminated pilot indicator to provide a clear and unmistakable indication that the turn signal system is activated.

S9.3.2 The indicator must consist of one or more lights flashing at the same frequency as the turn signal lamps.

S9.3.3 The indicator must function satisfactorily under all test conditions imposed on the turn signal flasher in S14.9.

S9.3.4 Indicator size and color.
S9.3.4.1 If the indicator is located inside the vehicle it must emit a green colored light and have a minimum area equivalent to a 3⁄16 in diameter circle.
S9.3.4.2 If the indicator is located outside of the vehicle it must emit a yellow light and have a minimum projected illuminated area of 0.1 sq in.

S9.3.5 The minimum required illuminated area of the indicator must be visible to any tangent on the 95th eyellipse as defined in SAE Recommended Practice J941b (1969) (incorporated by reference, see § 571.5), with the steering wheel turned to a straight ahead driving position and in the design location for an adjustable wheel or column.

S9.3.6 Turn signal lamp failure. Failure of one or more turn signal lamps such that the minimum photometric performance specified in Tables VI or VII is not being met must be indicated by the turn signal pilot indicator by a “steady on”, “steady off”, or by a significant change in the flashing rate, except when a variable-load turn signal flasher is used on a multipurpose passenger vehicle, truck, or bus 2032 mm or more in overall width, on a truck that is capable of accommodating a slide in camper, or on any vehicle equipped to tow trailers.

there is no requirement for the indicator to make an audible sound.the fact there are even indicator sounds are more of a legacy/carryover from when the devices that did the flashing were mechanical and made a sound.

to OP: if you want to disable it, my recommendation would be to try unplugging the speaker that is in the bottom of the steering column. no promise that's where it's coming from, but it's worth a shot before you go diving into the world of FORScan

 

[Ewags81]

legacy/carryover from when the devices that did the flashing were mechanical and made a sound.

i wondered if we were still using an actual flasher or both the light phase and sound were now also computer controlled

 

[Zig]

Honestly I haven't even got in the car since then.

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[roket]

i wondered if we were still using an actual flasher or both the light phase and sound were now also computer controlled

most or every modern vehicle has the indicators controlled by a BCM or equivalent module, even the incandescent ones. the audible signal is played from a speaker in time with the arrow on the dash, which is supposed to be synced with the exterior indicator

 

[smurfslayer]

I have never even thought about it. They are just too ummm expensive for my taste. You see I like to DRIVE THE HELL out of a car and those are way to pricey for what I'll put them through.

They were being facetious; There is a well earned reputation for brand-b attracting some of the worst drivers on the planet. I have a buddy who is a fellow rider and he chronicled his riding and parking adventures for a few years and the number one represented marque- you guessed it. BMW. Parked in motorcycle spaces, EV spaces, horribly parked, blinker on for 7 miles, cell yakking, while drifting in and out of their lane and yes, failing to signal unless by mistake in which case they leave the blinker on for 7 or more miles.

 

[LouG]

They were being facetious; There is a well earned reputation for brand-b attracting some of the worst drivers on the planet. I have a buddy who is a fellow rider and he chronicled his riding and parking adventures for a few years and the number one represented marque- you guessed it. BMW. Parked in motorcycle spaces, EV spaces, horribly parked, blinker on for 7 miles, cell yakking, while drifting in and out of their lane and yes, failing to signal unless by mistake in which case they leave the blinker on for 7 or more miles.

Yep, they're shit alright. I had an E30 many years ago. It had around 40,000kms on when I bought it. The indicator stalk was like new.

 

[Neggytive]

these are both false. FMVSS says this:

there is no requirement for the indicator to make an audible sound.the fact there are even indicator sounds are more of a legacy/carryover from when the devices that did the flashing were mechanical and made a sound.

to OP: if you want to disable it, my recommendation would be to try unplugging the speaker that is in the bottom of the steering column. no promise that's where it's coming from, but it's worth a shot before you go diving into the world of FORScan

But there IS a requirement for an audible signal if the lights don't flash

That is in another section of FMVSS that I referenced above.

Back in the days of bi-metallic flashers, the clicking was the metal "oil canning" as it heat cycled and again, it would make a fast clicking noise to let you know something was amiss

I would bet there is no way to defeat the standard signal on noise and not remove a federally required safety feature, so in other words no dealer in their right mind is going to do it.

"My client thought her turn signal was on before she took got rear ended by the defendant but a forensic examination of the cars electronics shows a federally required safety feature was defeated by Bob Blows Ford and that is why we are naming Ford Motor Company and Joe Blows Ford as defendants to this action as we believe Ford's design was deficient by allowing a federally required safety feature to be defeated and that Joe Blow Ford did negligently and illegally defeat the federally required safety feature contributing to my clients injuries"

The same reason I don't install rims without TPMS sensors that are working and programmed to the car, the liability risk is not worth it.

 

[Zig]

But there IS a requirement for an audible signal if the lights don't flash

That is in another section of FMVSS that I referenced above.

Back in the days of bi-metallic flashers, the clicking was the metal "oil canning" as it heat cycled and again, it would make a fast clicking noise to let you know something was amiss

I would bet there is no way to defeat the standard signal on noise and not remove a federally required safety feature, so in other words no dealer in their right mind is going to do it.

"My client thought her turn signal was on before she took got rear ended by the defendant but a forensic examination of the cars electronics shows a federally required safety feature was defeated by Bob Blows Ford and that is why we are naming Ford Motor Company and Joe Blows Ford as defendants to this action as we believe Ford's design was deficient by allowing a federally required safety feature to be defeated and that Joe Blow Ford did negligently and illegally defeat the federally required safety feature contributing to my clients injuries"

The same reason I don't install rims without TPMS sensors that are working and programmed to the car, the liability risk is not worth it.

Is a fuse a self defeating anomaly?

 

[JimiHendrix]

Trouble wrapping my head around a blinker click bothering someone - good grief

 

[davidsteele1975]

Trouble wrapping my head around a blinker click bothering someone - good grief

Nah it happens. Some sounds get right under my skin and once I hear them, I can't unhear them.

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