S650 LIMP MODE

[ValhallaNitePony]

Jokes aside, I would follow up with the vendor who sold the flame kit. If it is supposed to be compatible with this car and motor, they should be on the hook for it to work. If they say it’s not compatible, then I would have it removed. There is too much computer involved in these cars and we’re talking about one of the most basic core functions, combustion, so if they don’t already have a solution for the computer to work with this, you’re not going to be able to engineer it yourself.

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[MAT1955]

@ValhallaNitePony ..... nope. No vendor in their right mind will be responsible for that kind of stupid $hit - you do that and you're on your own. Of course asking the vendor will give them a laugh to share with their friends and families.

 

[D/\rK•650]

It makes the car shoot Flames! do you really need to know anything else? Contact manufacturer if you want to try to keep it. My 2 cents> remove it and enjoy your mustard 🫡

 

[Zig]

While it’s your revision, getting slammed for asking a question is a bit tough.

it kinda sounded like the 550 kit isn’t compatible with the 650 or the recently gained ability for tuning hasn’t been incorporated into the kit yet.

good luck and keep trying (if it’s something you want) - just cuz others may not doesn’t mean you can’t or shouldn’t - if none of us modded we’d be pretty lonely here talking about the changing social climate.

 

[MAT1955]

A few and I mean only a few posts on this forum (many more on others) show that owners have no clue how to properly mod engines and their brothers - the transmission and rear end - none of which should be heavily modded independently. I remember my uncle explaining to a guy who came into the shop looking for horsepower. He had a list of up-grades he wanted and a certain amount of money. My uncle said nope, not interested, you'll blow it up. He explained: "You tell us your maximum budget and we'll take the money and spread it across the engine - top to bottom. In the racing business that's called balancing the build. To do otherwise is to waste your money and guarantee you damage an engine. You can't just bolt a lot of product on the top end and neglect the bottom or you'll destroy internal parts.....and if it's a lot of horsepower we will have to modify the transmission and likely re-gear your rear end. There is no such thing as cheap racing mister." As for me I can't count the number os guys I have seen revving the crap out of their poor "unbalanced" engines to show-off and the poor valves are floating and burning and the pistons are slapping and getting scored. They are one episode from punching a connecting rod. IMO the reason our latest Coyote iteration is so damn effective, efficient and robust is that it has become - kudos to Fords engineers - a very, very highly balanced engine that a few short years ago would be considered race quality and TBH IMO it really is a race engine for the "average" guy/gal. IMO THIS is the heart of what a Mustang is (not slick "padded" dashes etc. leave that for the Genesis crowd). From first hand experience, I know there are no short cuts when involving high horsepower engines and also engine mods and if short cuts are taken then there WILL be consequences. You have to be very, very careful when considering horse power modifications to our Coyotes as they are right out there on the HP to displacement curve. HP generating moods beyond that must consider cooling up-grades, oil and filter selections and very, very carefully selected tunes.....and if you want to tune your Mustang so you can sit at a coffee and cars and rev the $hit out of it in an "unloaded" situation (if you know what that means ....to explain that's like missing a high rev shift on purpose) you better have some $$$$$ as it's gonna cost you at some point.

 

[Flyingtexan]

Alex I'll take "how to ruin a new Mustang for 500". Dumbest mod on the planet, and for what? So just to understand, you tune the car to spit flames out, via excessive fuel, which causes an explosion, wow what could go wrong? Put it back to stock and enjoy it before it too late.

 

[Zig]

Alex I'll take "how to ruin a new Mustang for 500". Dumbest mod on the planet, and for what? So just to understand, you tune the car to spit flames out, via excessive fuel, which causes an explosion, wow what could go wrong? Put it back to stock and enjoy it before it too late.

And yet folks mod to days end to gain traction (seems any little performance mod lets the tires spin easier) just cuz flaming tailpipes aint your tup of cea don’t mean it’s the dumbest on the planet. Who knows, maybe the star of the next hit movie needs to spit fire.

 

[Zig]

A few and I mean only a few posts on this forum (many more on others) show that owners have no clue how to properly mod engines and their brothers - the transmission and rear end - none of which should be heavily modded independently. I remember my uncle explaining to a guy who came into the shop looking for horsepower. He had a list of up-grades he wanted and a certain amount of money. My uncle said nope, not interested, you'll blow it up. He explained: "You tell us your maximum budget and we'll take the money and spread it across the engine - top to bottom. In the racing business that's called balancing the build. To do otherwise is to waste your money and guarantee you damage an engine. You can't just bolt a lot of product on the top end and neglect the bottom or you'll destroy internal parts.....and if it's a lot of horsepower we will have to modify the transmission and likely re-gear your rear end. There is no such thing as cheap racing mister." As for me I can't count the number os guys I have seen revving the crap out of their poor "unbalanced" engines to show-off and the poor valves are floating and burning and the pistons are slapping and getting scored. They are one episode from punching a connecting rod. IMO the reason our latest Coyote iteration is so damn effective, efficient and robust is that it has become - kudos to Fords engineers - a very, very highly balanced engine that a few short years ago would be considered race quality and TBH IMO it really is a race engine for the "average" guy/gal. IMO THIS is the heart of what a Mustang is (not slick "padded" dashes etc. leave that for the Genesis crowd). From first hand experience, I know there are no short cuts when involving high horsepower engines and also engine mods and if short cuts are taken then there WILL be consequences. You have to be very, very careful when considering horse power modifications to our Coyotes as they are right out there on the HP to displacement curve. HP generating moods beyond that must consider cooling up-grades, oil and filter selections and very, very carefully selected tunes.....and if you want to tune your Mustang so you can sit at a coffee and cars and rev the $hit out of it in an "unloaded" situation (if you know what that means ....to explain that's like missing a high rev shift on purpose) you better have some $$$$$ as it's gonna cost you at some point.

Isn’t his ‘mod’ more along the lines of looks? Not too sure it’s gonna do to much for performance. Basically just running a fuel line to the closest flame retardant container (metal exhaust mufflers) , blowing some air through it and lighting it on fire. You know, like those vacation performers.

 

[Puddinpop]

Alex I'll take "how to ruin a new Mustang for 500". Dumbest mod on the planet, and for what? So just to understand, you tune the car to spit flames out, via excessive fuel, which causes an explosion, wow what could go wrong? Put it back to stock and enjoy it before it too late.

It's for the views and likes. I'm with you on it being dumb. All the pop flame/burble tunes are stupid imo but it's his money/car so who cares if he tears his own stuff up.

 

[LouG]

I'll defend to the death the right for people to do weird, stupid shit to their cars, and I'll insist on my right to take the piss.

 

[smurfslayer]

Its hotlicks flame kit i have it on s550 it works great and many dodges also have the same
And the problem is no one have installed it on S650 if someone do have maybe i can get a solution

I looked it up, thanks for the name.

"Hot Licks Exhaust Inc. flamethrower kit works is by using a 3-pole momentary push button that, when activated, temporarily breaks the circuit powering the engine’s ignition coil/s and simultaneously supplies a 12-volt high speed pulse to spark plug/s mounted in the exhaust using a specially calibrated solid-state electronic flamethrower control module. This in turn results in the unburned gas-air mixture passing through the exhaust being ignited into a blue/orange blow torch type flame at the end of the exhaust tip"

There's the problem. These cars have about 4-5 times more tech than the space shuttle did. The misfire detection is very sensitive; it has to be.

Honestly, if you're going to go for flames, go big, or go home.
I use one of these for the relative few times I can burn brush

https://www.opticsplanet.com/exothermic-pulsefire-ubf-flamethrower.html

You could get a pair of them, and use independent fuel / ignition source. You'll get 30 foot flames, not 2 feet. Obviously don't stand close by the exhaust when you light them off, or you'll get roasted.

 

[LouG]

What is useful are the anti carjack devices popular in South Africa a while back. Sheets of flame shooting out from under the doors at shin level.

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