Mach 1 Wheels on S650 GT- Fitment Questions

[Nik691]

I am late to this thread, but I am running the OEM PP2 wheels and can confirm that they are rubbing very slightly. Car is on the identical FP setup. S65T springs and FP track pack struts. Just put some touch up on the marks until I figure out the best way to fix it. It irks me to roll fenders on a car that isn’t old.

Tire damage from rubbing

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[AZ_Ryan]

Tire damage from rubbing

Yes. Lowering the car with those wheels is danger zone for rubbing.

 

[Nik691]

Yes. Lowering the car with those wheels is danger zone for rubbing.

Yeah and I also don’t want to get stuck throwing a ton of money trying to fix the problem either. I had an alignment scheduled for this weekend, but then I read that the 650s camber can’t be adjusted without plates. Whether camber plates fix it, lower aspect tire, etc. Just bad timing

 

[Stanzi]

Yes- both Ford Performance and LMR verify the fix for this is the Dark Horse Camber Plates which are what come stock on the DH HP in order to run this exact setup in terms of wheel size.

also I noticed you were not running the extended fender flares…

the key though is the camber plates and the camber during the alignment.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Yeah and I also don’t want to get stuck throwing a ton of money trying to fix the problem either. I had an alignment scheduled for this weekend, but then I read that the 650s camber can’t be adjusted without plates. Whether camber plates fix it, lower aspect tire, etc. Just bad timing

Honestly I think 10" fronts and 11" rears are the perfect set up. I would not go back to the HP wheels.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Yes- both Ford Performance and LMR verify the fix for this is the Dark Horse Camber Plates which are what come stock on the DH HP in order to run this exact setup in terms of wheel size.

also I noticed you were not running the extended fender flares…

the key though is the camber plates and the camber during the alignment.

Even with camber plates, I rubbed SLIGHTLY with HP wheels and lowering springs. The worst part was scraping the bottom of the car on drivways and speed bumps. Going to 35 profile tires greatly helped. But I personally wouldn't do it again.

 

[Stanzi]

Well maybe we just run the camber plates and the M-18000-F strut package and call it a day. They are waiting to do the post 305 / 315 wheel tire alignment till tomorrow. Then I’m driving it to StangHi in Crowley for Cody to do what he does for the rest of it. I have all the other parts…

We will look and see and report back!

wheels are definitely but those Center caps have got to go.. ugh lol

 

[Junkyard Dog]

Tire damage from rubbing

A - you lowered the car.

B - those tires are 295/35

I don't know what size tires came on the S550, but the front of my Dark Horse came with 305/30.

That is a difference of almost half an inch in sidewall height, which means almost an inch in overall tire height.

My car has a street alignment, and the Dark Horse handling package comes from the factory with a street alignment, so, while I have the Ford camber plates as OEM, they are not needed to make the 305/30 fit in a stock S650 DHHP ride height car.

 

[Nik691]

A - you lowered the car.

B - those ties are 295/35

I don't know what size tires came on the S550, but the front of my Dark Horse came with 305/30.

That is a difference of almost half an inch in sidewall height, which means almost an inch in overall tire height.

My car has a street alignment, and the Dark Horse handling package comes from the factory with a street alignment, so, while I have the Ford camber plates as OEM, they are not needed to make the 305/30 fit in a stock S650 DHHP ride height car.

Yeah I know, but I wanted to post this because OP was going to be running the same set up that I have and it does in fact rub. I think a smaller aspect ratio and slightly smaller tire, as well as camber plates would probably fix it, but I may just sell this set and look for something else.

 

[Nik691]

Even with camber plates, I rubbed SLIGHTLY with HP wheels and lowering springs. The worst part was scraping the bottom of the car on drivways and speed bumps. Going to 35 profile tires greatly helped. But I personally wouldn't do it again.

I wanted to drop to a 30, but your reasoning for 35s was mine as well. Funny thing is, only the passenger side front is the one rubbing

 

[Stanzi]

Well, picked her up with just the wheels and tires … and I will say this…

1) Looks badass. These wheels are an absolute steal at $380 for the set (I had a ton of points and 20% off code at Ford Performance).

2) The 30 series Michelin PS4S are ABSOLUTELY an upgrade comfort, handling and even noise over the 35 series Pirelli P Zeros with 6800 miles on them. Bumps and road imperfections are much less noticeable; body roll is already reduced! Love these tires.

3) The Ford Performance center craps are oversized and look like absolute donkey shit. The factory pony caps fit perfectly and look amazing.

4) I specifically told the dealer 5 times that we CAN NOT USE the TPMS sensors in the kit from Ford Performance as they are for the S550. They promised they ordered and installed the correct sensors. They may have but installed the wrong ones and now they don’t work.

5) The Whipple Tomahawk is not letting me change tire size - so we have to figure this out. Says it doesn’t recognize PCM Calibration. WTF?

6) No alignment was done… they still look badass but desperately need the lowering springs and camber plates along with the track struts and wheel arch extenders along with negative camber to tuck those big Bertha fronts into the wheel well. All those are being installed next week.

7) ChatGPT has jokes.

10/10 would recommend

Can’t wait to finish the setup… They fit perfect with zero rubbing!

 

[Nik691]

Well, picked her up with just the wheels and tires … and I will say this…

1) Looks badass. These wheels are an absolute steal at $380 for the set (I had a ton of points and 20% off code at Ford Performance).

2) The 30 series Michelin PS4S are ABSOLUTELY an upgrade comfort, handling and even noise over the 35 series Pirelli P Zeros with 6800 miles on them. Bumps and road imperfections are much less noticeable; body roll is already reduced! Love these tires.

3) The Ford Performance center craps are oversized and look like absolute donkey shit. The factory pony caps fit perfectly and look amazing.

4) I specifically told the dealer 5 times that we CAN NOT USE the TPMS sensors in the kit from Ford Performance as they are for the S550. They promised they ordered and installed the correct sensors. They may have but installed the wrong ones and now they don’t work.

5) The Whipple Tomahawk is not letting me change tire size - so we have to figure this out. Says it doesn’t recognize PCM Calibration. WTF?

6) No alignment was done… they still look badass but desperately need the lowering springs and camber plates along with the track struts and wheel arch extenders along with negative camber to tuck those big Bertha fronts into the wheel well. All those are being installed next week.

7) ChatGPT has jokes.

10/10 would recommend

Can’t wait to finish the setup… They fit perfect with zero rubbing!

Car looks great! Just wanted to let you know because you are going for the same setup as me, minus wheel style.

I just put the FP camber plates on last night and adjusted the camber so that the tire is almost flush with the fender (did not max them out). Car needs to obviously be aligned still but I drove it around a little bit to see if I could get it to rub. It doesn’t look like it has rubbed any yet, but I didn’t beat on it or anything because of it needing an alignment. I will update if rubbing occurs.

 

[Stanzi]

Car looks great! Just wanted to let you know because you are going for the same setup as me, minus wheel style.

I just put the FP camber plates on last night and adjusted the camber so that the tire is almost flush with the fender (did not max them out). Car needs to obviously be aligned still but I drove it around a little bit to see if I could get it to rub. It doesn’t look like it has rubbed any yet, but I didn’t beat on it or anything because of it needing an alignment. I will update if rubbing occurs.

Thanks! I appreciate it.

Yes let me know what you find out! Super stoked with each of these changes.

 

[Nik691]

Car looks great! Just wanted to let you know because you are going for the same setup as me, minus wheel style.

I just put the FP camber plates on last night and adjusted the camber so that the tire is almost flush with the fender (did not max them out). Car needs to obviously be aligned still but I drove it around a little bit to see if I could get it to rub. It doesn’t look like it has rubbed any yet, but I didn’t beat on it or anything because of it needing an alignment. I will update if rubbing occurs.

Thanks! I appreciate it.

Yes let me know what you find out! Super stoked with each of these changes.

Will do!

Definitely recommend the plates though, car turns in even better now! Can’t wait to play lol!

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