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[agreywolfe]

Ford stated 2023 production numbers at just under 15,000 units in Q1 which ended in March. so using basic math theres roughly 3000 dealers nationwide so thats 5 2023 mustangs per lot, obviously thats averaging, theres definitely going to be a lot of lots without any 2023's

correction: 15000 sales, not produced

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[KINGKONA]

Really? most of the Ford dealerships near me (25 miles and closer) only have a few 2023 Mustangs and no used Mustangs. They are waiting for the S650s.

We're talking 2015-2023 MYs., across the country.

If you choose to pedantically argue only the last 72 hours of stock at one particular dealership or something, I can't help you.

 

[lcbrownz]

Ford stated 2023 production numbers at just under 15,000 units in Q1 which ended in March. so using basic math theres roughly 3000 dealers nationwide so thats 5 2023 mustangs per lot, obviously thats averaging, theres definitely going to be a lot of lots without any 2023's

correction: 15000 sales, not produced

That number is tainted because of fleet sales. Most fleet and special-order vehicles are already sold before they hit the lot. So that 15,000 is a lot lower that's what is on the lot.

 

[agreywolfe]

That number is tainted because of fleet sales. Most fleet and special-order vehicles are already sold before they hit the lot. So that 15,000 is a lot lower that's what is on the lot.

i know, i was just putting some numbers to this topic, unfortunately Ford doesnt breakdown by model year (bad wording on my part), thats just Q1 2023 sales for new Mustangs

 

[lcbrownz]

i know, i was just putting some numbers to this topic, unfortunately Ford doesnt breakdown by model year (bad wording on my part), thats just Q1 2023 sales for new Mustangs

Ford sold 19,265 (2022-2023) Mustangs in all of 2023.

 

[agreywolfe]

Ford sold 19,265 (2022-2023) Mustangs in all of 2023.

im curious where you get your numbers from. i got the ~15k from their US sales release from the start of April, so my info could be out of date.

here it is if you want to look at it

 

[lcbrownz]

im curious where you get your numbers from. i got the ~15k from their US sales release from the start of April, so my info could be out of date.

here it is if you want to look at it

Ford Mustang Sales Figures | US Car Sales Figure (carfigures.com)

 

[agreywolfe]

Ford Mustang Sales Figures | US Car Sales Figure (carfigures.com)

thanks, i wonder where that discrepancy comes from then.

either way, you can already see the beginnings of the recent market movements here, S550 sales are up to 2018 levels. i wonder what influenced it more, the Camaro and Challenger leaving production, or Dealers trying to push the S550 out for room for S650's. it will be neat to see how that develops throughout the year though.

it does add credibility to that "dont see them on lots" argument, cant see whats been sold.

 

[lcbrownz]

thanks, i wonder where that discrepancy comes from then.

either way, you can already see the beginnings of the recent market movements here, S550 sales are up to 2018 levels. i wonder what influenced it more, the Camaro and Challenger leaving production, or Dealers trying to push the S550 out for room for S650's. it will be neat to see how that develops throughout the year though.

it does add credibility to that "dont see them on lots" argument, cant see whats been sold.

I believe more folks (in 2023) would purchase a Ford Ranger Raptor than a 4-pot Mustang.

 

[agreywolfe]

I believe more folks (in 2023) would purchase a Ford Ranger Raptor than a 4-pot Mustang.

thats if they can find/afford it though since most sales are still done on dealer lots anyone looking for a mustang, 4 banger or otherwise, will probably find it easier than a ranger raptor

 

[NegativeMultiplier]

The number one vehicle, in my area that young males drive, are 4 door Honda Civics with a loud cheap muffler, not Mustangs.

Okay yeah, that's a different story then. Won't take that away from you.

A Mustang isn't a Muscle car.

I'm not sure what to define it as sometimes. Some call it a muscle car, some call it a pony car, some call it a sports car. Everyone has their ideas and I've seen people on places like Facebook get extremely pressed because they identified it as something they don't agree with. Whatever people want to call it is irrelevant to me, I just want one.

 

[KINGKONA]

Okay yeah, that's a different story then. Won't take that away from you.

I'm not sure what to define it as sometimes. Some call it a muscle car, some call it a pony car, some call it a sports car. Everyone has their ideas and I've seen people on places like Facebook get extremely pressed because they identified it as something they don't agree with. Whatever people want to call it is irrelevant to me, I just want one.

There is no question; it's a Pony car. As in Mustang. It created and defined the market category.

100%, it's a Pony car.

 

[lcbrownz]

There is no question; it's a Pony car. As in Mustang. It created and defined the market category.

100%, it's a Pony car.

In a few years the Mustang will go 0-60 from charging station to charging station.

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