Ford Says It Makes 500 hp, Four Different Dynos Give Four Different Results

[robvas]

Google says 685 horsepower to the flywheel to hit 124 mph.

503 advertised is a big difference. That's not even advertising the wheel horsepower (584).

I think they come in around 530 on the dyno

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[Dave2013M3]

That's a nice car at a better than expected price. EDIT, well, not the as tested price.

Launch control, something I wish the Mustang had. AWD, another great advantage. No wonder it has a 1 second 0-30 and a 2.8 0-60.

As the article notes, these traction advantages make up 0.7 seconds in the quarter mile over the rear wheel drive model even with 150 pounds added.

The G87 is ONLY RWD, the X drive comes later this year. You can order one now

 

[Dave2013M3]

Dark Horse 3992 lbs with automatic
M2 CS 3770 lbs

And it is 523 horsepower, so I do not even know if this is the car you are mentioning.

It does have 61 lb ft of torque advantage over the Dark Horse in addition to the horsepower and weight advantages. This is why it does not come with a manual transmission. The torque would break the tranny, so they would have to tune the torque limits way down.

It's not the tranny that's weak, but the clutch. Folks with manual G87s are running 600+HP with no issues with upgraded clutch.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

The G87 is ONLY RWD, the X drive comes later this year. You can order one now

I was reading review posted by robvas in post #25, which is a 2023 model with xDrive.

I think everybody is talking about different cars because his earlier post did not say which car, and I added to the confusion by guessing and posting about a different car, and you may have been posting about yet another car, and others posting about . . .

 

[ChitownStang]

It's not the tranny that's weak, but the clutch. Folks with manual G87s are running 600+HP with no issues with upgraded clutch.

You sure about that?
I read an article about a week ago where the top M guy was talking about how they don’t want to reengineer a new manual transmission to handle the power increases because they just aren’t selling enough manuals.
If it’s just a clutch why doesn’t BMW just install a beefier clutch instead of leaving behind manuals to have less power increases the same model? Seems like that hurts sales more for such a simple solution

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