Exhaust upgrade

[npole]

Gotcha. Thanks.

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[markimark]

Have any of you spoken to Ford about the impact installing an H pipe has on your warranty? Im getting mixed messages here. Ford UK told me to contact my dealer!!!!

 

[npole]

I'm worried about the warranty as well, but I decided to give it a go. Thinking at it, they could say anything if the (eventual) issue isn't related to that specific component, and I'm sure that a resonator doesn't do anything mechanical-wise. I mean if your engine will explode, they couldn't say it's because you installed the h-pipe and refuse to pass the warranty.

 

[NicoMCH]

when I got it installed in 2017, 2 years in the warranty of my previous S550, my dealer did not mention anything about warranty issues, or even the possibility that it would pose issues. But things might have changed in 7 years.

 

[coult]

It is already unreasonable to have this car. One of it's best features, if not the best feature, is the sound. So why not be a bit more unreasonable and take the small risk to upgrade it? I mean there's always something that can go south, I personally try to avoid questioning myself 'what if'.

 

[markimark]

Yeah but when it goes south IT REALLY GOES SOUTH!!!
Ford UK still no help. Dealer - no response. Car is great...Ford are S**T.

 

[coult]

Really south? How?
And what do you expect from Ford or the dealership?

 

[npole]

"Going south" could come from different source:

- Inspection: local authorities may find your modified exhaust leading to the worst.
- Ford: an issue and they try to find a reason to negate the warranty because you modified the car.

The first is real (although, not frequent), the second is pure speculation.

 

[coult]

This is obvious and should be clear to anybody who's considering that kind of modification. It is not what think of when it goes 'REALLY SOUTH'. But different people might think differently about it.
As far as I know there's no warranty issues that do not directly relate to the exhaust system. If the active valves start rattling I of course won't ask Ford to cover the repair cost. If the engine explodes I'm sure Ford won't cease warranty because of an H-Pipe. That's actually more likely if an oil catch can is installed.

 

[msquad]

This is obvious and should be clear to anybody who's considering that kind of modification. It is not what think of when it goes 'REALLY SOUTH'. But different people might think differently about it.
As far as I know there's no warranty issues that do not directly relate to the exhaust system. If the active valves start rattling I of course won't ask Ford to cover the repair cost. If the engine explodes I'm sure Ford won't cease warranty because of an H-Pipe. That's actually more likely if an oil catch can is installed.

I'd say...not so sure about that. Right in my Ford Mustang Owner's manual...

 

[coult]

Thats's great. I have an oil catch can thinking it might cause a warranty problem and then ignoring the potential issue. Even though it can cause serious engine damage when you forget to empty it.

So let´s say it is more likely to loose engine explosion coverage when an aftermarked air filter is installed.

All I'm saying is that I don't want to worry too much about every little thing with the car and don't like to be over the top cautious. The things that go south will be dealt with, I do not think a muffler delete will send things 'REALLY SOUTH'. We all, more or less, got this car to have fun, don't you think?

 

[npole]

Maybe it depends by the country, but I believe they could raise any potential motivation to negate the warranty, especially if the damage is substantial and pricey.
I've had an engine "explosion" on my S550, and I had an aftermarket filter on it (not the airbox, just the filter, but technical identical to the stock one.. had replaced it because it had to be replaced, nor because i want to modify anything), they didn't said anything about it (neither I think they investigated it), and passed the work under warranty. I don't know how it would have ended if they would have found a modification to the exhaust system, maybe nothing.. or not. I don't know.

As for the oil catch can or anything else that is "ford approved", that's a different matter: anything you install that is sold by Ford and installed by a Ford dealer, you're OK with it... it's their stuff. I'm only talking about purchasing something outside of the official channels and have it installed by "yourself", so it's not "tracked" by the dealer, it's your own modification that could raise issues with the Ford warranty.

 

[markimark]

And what do you expect from Ford or the dealership?

A bloody straight answer LOL.
Maybe you can afford the cost of a repair that isnt covered under warranty but I cant!!!

 

[npole]

They won't tell you anything, or you may receive back multiple answers according to each dealer or each Ford jurisdiction in each country.
You will know the definitive answer only if you'll face an issue and you'll have to deal with the warranty, and it could be different for each damage and each person.
And no, I wouldn't love to afford the damage myself (on the S550 it was half of the car value).

So the final answer is: if you don't wanna risk, to not do it. I decided to risk, if something goes wrong I could technically pay for it... but nor that I would be happy to do so.

 

[coult]

When talking about risk it seems helpful to evaluate if the situation in question has actually occurred in real life.
How many ceased warranties have been known to be caused by a muffler delete? A muffled delete is very common and Ford knows, that many customers throw out the suitcase on day two of ownership. Can you find one forum post that shows it actually happened? If not (I admit I haven't looked for it thoroughly) we're taking about a risk here that might not be worth missing this great sound upgrade.

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