American Racing TTF 20x11" on front?

[stevenk2]

I was looking at a set of the new American Racing TTF's for my '24 GT PP. They offer a staggered setup with 9.5" wide fronts and 11" wide rears, but I really like the dish of the rears with the higher offset. Does anyone know if I could also run the 11" rims in front without issues? I know that the DH runs with 305's front and 315's in the rear (presumably on 11" wide rims), but wasn't sure if it was possible or even advisable to do a similar setup on my GT PP. The main question/issue would be for the potential of any rubbing anywhere up front (wheel wells or otherwise, lock-to-lock); the secondary concern would be how badly the ride and handling may be affected.

I did do some searching around here and on the web in general, but the wheels are new enough that I don't think anyone has tried or even asked the question as of yet. But please feel free to let me know how dumb of an idea it would be, and if I should just stick to the 9.5" rims up front.

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[SteveinKG]

I am definitely interested in this. I have been wondering if I might run 11" wide on all fours.

 

[Sofa King]

I personally wouldn't go more than 10" in front... I have 9.5 and 11 staggered setup. I think some have used 11 up front, but I believe it requires a spacer to make it work with that offset (I could be wrong)... others that have done it may chime in. @roket did it here. https://www.mustang7g.com/forums/threads/rokets-dark-horse-azureus-project.157647/

 

[roket]

I personally wouldn't go more than 10" in front... I have 9.5 and 11 staggered setup. I think some have used 11 up front, but I believe it requires a spacer to make it work with that offset (I could be wrong)... others that have done it may chime in. @roket did it here. https://www.mustang7g.com/forums/threads/rokets-dark-horse-azureus-project.157647/

no spacers required for 11" wide front wheels. GT350R fitment works well (+24mm front offset)

 

[SteveinKG]

And this would be/is the same for GT w/Brembo brakes? The +24mm offset in the front?
I am not wishing to stagger my rim sizes, I like the 19X11 idea, but would likely go a tad narrower with front tires as opposed to the rears. In the mid-80's, I fondly remember a time when people were refurbishing/rebuilding cars of the 60's and 70's and how they would stagger those wheels. What a cool look! I am not necessarily going for that exact look, but I am looking to buy wider rims and tires. I suppose I am trying for the widest of each that I can fit on my car without whatsoever any kind of mechanical mods/changes. Just bolt on and go.

 

[roket]

And this would be/is the same for GT w/Brembo brakes? The +24mm offset in the front?
I am not wishing to stagger my rim sizes, I like the 19X11 idea, but would likely go a tad narrower with front tires as opposed to the rears. In the mid-80's, I fondly remember a time when people were refurbishing/rebuilding cars of the 60's and 70's and how they would stagger those wheels. What a cool look! I am not necessarily going for that exact look, but I am looking to buy wider rims and tires. I suppose I am trying for the widest of each that I can fit on my car without whatsoever any kind of mechanical mods/changes. Just bolt on and go.

i have the brembos too, and 19" diam with 11" width and +24mm offset works perfect. plenty of caliper clearance and you can run up to 325/30R19, but the clearance to the strut will be close, but wont hit. i do recommend running at most 315 width, though, as 325 will cause some minor rubbing at steering lock on the fender liner. for the rears, you can run 19x11" just fine as well, and i recommend the Dark Horse HP offset of 52.5mm (round up or down, your choice). you can much more comfortably run 325 width tires on the rear with no rubbing

 

[Sofa King]

no spacers required for 11" wide front wheels. GT350R fitment works well (+24mm front offset)

So, with the 50mm offset, a 25mm spacer would be required to work in front...

 

[roket]

So, with the 50mm offset, a 25mm spacer would be required to work in front...

yeah, +50 is going to hit the strut guaranteed

 

[stevenk2]

Thanks everyone! I did see this after doing some more poking around:

S650 Dark Horse on Project 6GR Wheels!! | 2015+ S550 Mustang Forum (GT, EcoBoost, GT350, GT500, Bullitt, Mach 1) - Mustang6G.com

I think what I may end up doing is ordering 2 of the 20x11's and mounting up some rubber on them, then doing a test fit on the front. If they work without any clearance issues, I'll go ahead and order the other 2 with the 11" width; otherwise, I'll just order the 9.5" wide ones for the front and go with a staggered setup. Option B may be to go with another style of rim with different offsets and backspacing that may be a better fit, but I really like the look of the AR TTF's:

2024 mustang Gt new wheels

Mine is carbonized grey, so the look would be similar to the one in the video, albeit with the 11" wide rims all around. I don't think the staggered setup would look bad, but I think the square setup with the wider rims would look better.

 

[Sofa King]

Thanks everyone! I did see this after doing some more poking around:

S650 Dark Horse on Project 6GR Wheels!! | 2015+ S550 Mustang Forum (GT, EcoBoost, GT350, GT500, Bullitt, Mach 1) - Mustang6G.com

I think what I may end up doing is ordering 2 of the 20x11's and mounting up some rubber on them, then doing a test fit on the front. If they work without any clearance issues, I'll go ahead and order the other 2 with the 11" width; otherwise, I'll just order the 9.5" wide ones for the front and go with a staggered setup. Option B may be to go with another style of rim with different offsets and backspacing that may be a better fit, but I really like the look of the AR TTF's:

2024 mustang Gt new wheels

Mine is carbonized grey, so the look would be similar to the one in the video, albeit with the 11" wide rims all around. I don't think the staggered setup would look bad, but I think the square setup with the wider rims would look better.

You will need spacers for those to work in front with the 50mm offset.

 

[stevenk2]

You will need spacers for those to work in front with the 50mm offset.

Oh - if that's the case, I may end up having to go with the staggered setup then. I'm concerned about pushing the tires out nearly another inch when they're already going to be wide as it is (I was going to go with 305's all the way around if I went with the 11" wide rims). Not the end of the world going with the staggered setup with the 9.5" rims in front, it'll still look good. I may also look at a different wheel that isn't as high an offset that would clear with 11" wide rims and no spacers.

 

[Sofa King]

As @roket said the +24mm offset works in front, the +50mm offset should be good for the rear, so going that route you won't be able to rotate tires... with a spacer in front you can.

 

[SteveinKG]

i have the brembos too, and 19" diam with 11" width and +24mm offset works perfect. plenty of caliper clearance and you can run up to 325/30R19, but the clearance to the strut will be close, but wont hit. i do recommend running at most 315 width, though, as 325 will cause some minor rubbing at steering lock on the fender liner. for the rears, you can run 19x11" just fine as well, and i recommend the Dark Horse HP offset of 52.5mm (round up or down, your choice). you can much more comfortably run 325 width tires on the rear with no rubbing

Thank you, I appreciate the suggestions and advice.

 

[stevenk2]

I think I know the answer to this question already, but if I did the 11" wide rims in front with the 25mm spacers and went with a narrower tire, say a 285 or 295 width instead of matching the rears at 305mm, it still wouldn't make a difference per se in terms of the lip of the wheel being pushed out another 1" from the fender, correct? I'm having visions (nightmares) of the front track being overall wider than the rears regardless of which tire width I'd go with (and the mess that would probably make of the alignment and handling).

I suppose I could measure the track of the stock fronts and rears to see how those sit currently, but I'd imagine that they're the same width (the thought being if the stock front track is a bit narrower than the rear, then maybe I'd have a little room to go slightly wider).

At any rate, I kinda feel like I'm trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole putting 11" wide rims with a higher offset up front. The question is more theoretical at this point -I'm not going to actually try it. Bottom line, if I want to run 11" wide rims up front, I need to choose one with a lower offset, which kinda defeats my original idea of having a deeper dish rim up front. And for no other reason than to have it more aesthetically pleasing - it likely wouldn't improve handling or drivability (would likely make it worse).

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