AI is awesome...

[Zig]

Jensen is also a massive beneficiary of AI hype. Dude is selling all the shovels to all these companies with his GPUs. I would be shocked if people on this forum love this dude or support him while also supporting American made because Jensen and NVIDIA love outsourcing work, especially to Taiwan. And they love handing over GPUs to China, either illegally through Singapore or by lobbying government to lift the restrictions on selling GPUs to China. Both of which hurt the US technologically as well as financially.

USA already has its own datacenters and as explained above, they are massively choking resources people actually need in order to power/maintain them every day. Not only are they expensive to power/maintain, they are expensive to create with cost of land, labor, materials.

Really incredible times when no company has yet found a feasible business model/product that has captured mainstream retention while also making money. Sam Altman himself has said that the current $200/month subscription is far from a profitable business model. How much can normal people pay per month to use a tool that is wrong a significant percentage of the time? Also Sam Altman is a scumbag. I don't like Elon Musk, but he was right in pointing out the hypocrisy of Altman. OpenAI started off as a non profit with no goals for profit and doing AI research. As soon as Altman smelled the money, he initiated a power grab, booted off the initial board, and partnered with Microsoft. They can't IPO anymore because of successful lawsuits, but their goal is no longer non profit; it's to squeeze profit out of its users no matter what. So much for ethical AI research!

Edit: also your last comment about tech today vs in 2020 is laughable. People in the Bay Area already knew about this stuff 7-10 years ago. This stuff is moving at a normal rate compared to tech in general, it's just been in the oven for those who know who work in the industry. Machine learning as a field has been around for decades.

Ai suffers the fortune tellers fate.

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[AZ_Ryan]

It's never approached this scale and easy access. Anyone from any computer can create a realistic looking video that will fool 90+% of the public because people have become conditioned to not think for themselves. If you go on X, most of the replies are @Grok is this true or @perplexity, which uses rank based sources that are easily manipulated on the internet. Not only that, there are numerous bad actors who actively try to manipulate the learning models to grab data that surfaces their view/opinions. This is happening on both sides of the political spectrum, so I'm not even pushing any narrative. AI is dangerous, and the people in charge of it are not to be trusted and push it extremely so people will hand money over to them.

It's scary how easy it is to fool people with AI. My parents were excitedly showing me videos of a "Tesla Model 2" and a sub-$20K Toyota coming in the future, and it took me less than a second to know they were AI generated.

There is definitely an age group that is more susceptible than others. Sadly it's the same one that gets their news from FB.

 

[kagemusha2662]

There is definitely an age group that is more susceptible than others. Sadly it's the same one that gets their news from FB.

You'd be surprised at how many 20 year olds and 30 year olds get fooled by AI these days. Google released their new video generator during their tech event, and it genuinely is good, which is frightening. Imagine the next political elections just filled with tons of these videos of candidates saying whatever someone makes them say. Imagine a world where a video of an AI fire is so realistic that people start panicking and taking drastic action. Only a couple years ago, a false emergency text stating a nuclear warhead had been fired towards Hawaii had cities on those islands in uproar and panic. Add that with a realistic looking grainy video of a missile going out of the water and we'll see how fast things can get out of control.

the hope is that there is regulation around what AI can be used for and what it should be used for. But when politicians are so easily bought, you start to get really depressed and despondent about the future. It's been very sad to see so many people claim AI as the next great thing, but I'm also a little hopeful because there is a majority amongst public opinion who want regulation and believe the current uses of AI are more harmful than good.

 

[Paul's stable]

Right, because misinformation and propaganda wasn't a thing in the media before AI.

It was but now we have gotten to a point where you can't trust anything you see or hear. It's sad.

 

[Q6543]

Bigger picture… A.I…. Robots… neuralink…starlink…SpaceX

It’s all going to come together, feel free to not like it and not embrace it.

reminds me of my good friends dad, he was explaining to us… when scientists split the atom working on the manhattan project, they had legitimate concerns that it could ignite earth’s atmosphere or cause catastrophic consequences

“And the bastards did it anyway”

 

[kagemusha2662]

Bigger picture… A.I…. Robots… neuralink…starlink…SpaceX

It’s all going to come together, feel free to not like it and not embrace it.

reminds me of my good friends dad, he was explaining to us… when scientists split the atom working on the manhattan project, they had legitimate concerns that it could ignite earth’s atmosphere or cause catastrophic consequences

“And the bastards did it anyway”

ATP I’m not sure if you’re even arguing in good faith as you listed awful examples.

1. SpaceX, a company which has produced no real value to humanity. And is funded by our tax dollars. Also literally this week they had a spaceship blow up before it even left the ground. Nice use of our money. Also they want to take over land in Texas and have employees stay closer to the facility and essentially create a corporate town, which has gone so successfully in history.

2. Neuralink, which also hasn’t produced anything of value and is just a money sink.

3. Robots (assuming you mean Tesla robots here), which also have not launched nor produced anything of value and also if as successful as you claim it is, will replace thousands of human jobs.

You just seem to be a massive Elon fan boy/tech bro fan boy. Be wary of those you call geniuses and leaders, they do not have your best interest at heart.

Also you mention the Manhattan Project, which arguably has put the world in its current state of hyperfear and current world order LOL there was a whole movie about it a couple years ago. Introducing nuclear weapons to the world has led the world down a terrible terrible path

 

[MAT1955]

@Q6543 ...... AI is this millennia's discovery of Fire. A total human/societal shift in existence. Now we will have AGI. Look at Abilene Texas at the massive 1GIG farm there. Canada has a 4 GIG AI farm planned to run on nat. gas and nuclear power.......this will separate nations and societies into have and have nots.....powerful and weak. Predator and prey. It has started and can not be stopped. Trying to even control it will be monumentally difficult. It will explode in all directions. Be ready!

 

[Q6543]

@MAT1955 gets it… and that’s probably a better descriptor (this millennia’s discovery of fire)

Exactly correct about separating haves and have nots.
Clearly people just don’t want to see it all.

these are essentially blank check programs, it is all happening no matter the costs.

I think a lot of people are 3,4,5,6.

 

[Zig]

@Q6543 ...... AI is this millennia's discovery of Fire. A total human/societal shift in existence. Now we will have AGI. Look at Abilene Texas at the massive 1GIG farm there. Canada has a 4 GIG AI farm planned to run on nat. gas and nuclear power.......this will separate nations and societies into have and have nots.....powerful and weak. Predator and prey. It has started and can not be stopped. Trying to even control it will be monumentally difficult. It will explode in all directions. Be ready!

Not even close to fire

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