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Interesting given how much the stock tune short shifts at those speeds of steeda's car and this one.

Odd they put 6spd vs the 8spd and yet the performance was mostly the same. "the challenger is only good in the straight line" Runs the same as the manual gt in straight line and worse at everything else. "I'm having a hard time picking a winner" weird review.

Gonna be a while for the same kind of weather.

They said they are the ones from the gt500.

Ford claims the only difference in dh and gt engine is the tune and rods. But looks like the timing is the same on both (both max at 26ish) which kind of adds up from the dyno's we've seen so far. So I guess the question would be is the gt underrated or is the dh overrated?

Why not post those rather than some random no info video, that seems to be the only thing out there? The s550 in this video is clearly faster than the s650 but is exaggerated in the first race by the 24 taking the camera guy then when switched the s550 jumped then the 24 sat there then the s550...

Then the video is pointless.

It kind of crazy how much talk there has been about this car with no real amount of data just a few cars to have any information from. Also even if the s650 weighted the exact same as the s550 which honestly it's not really much difference at all gt to gt anyway with the same options, What are...

I mean every thing you listed bar one is in colder months than now with most being from nov-dec. I would call those hero runs but to each their own. But overall it doesn't matter we won't see if the s650 can do anything like that for months anyway. The bottom line is it's mostly looking like...

I never said they didn't do it I said they didn't do it in 3000-3500 da, thanks for the list but my point stands you kind of reinforced it. If you think that da isn't going to slow those cars down I don't know to tell you. People who ran s550 in warmer weather stock didn't run like that. I'm...

So yes and no on the more money is the number higher yes but inflation sucks. A 19 401a pp1 gt was around 50kish but use a inflation calc on that 50k from 2019 to 2023 and that 50k is now $59,427 how much is a loaded 24 gt again..

If s550's were really trapping 3-4mph faster you'd see a lot more than 1 car length difference. Just wondering what are you guys calling "stock s550 times"? Glory runs at -1500-0 da in mid of winter? Or da like what all the s650's are running in right now (3000-3500)? Because if you are calling...

The brakes are the same as the gt pp brakes with better rotors of the same size but that will mostly just help with fade under heavy heavy use the main difference is the tires. Most don't realize tires are insanely important for braking. This is first time they've used a tire like this which...

Those are some respectable numbers, however it's braking and acceleration are complete because of it's tires. I dunno about the Darkhorse over a cheaper pp gt and buy stickier tires. You'll have to buy more tires for the dh in about 1000 miles anyway lol. The numbers keep getting thrown around...

Something else to consider this could be nothing or could something. The dyno's on youtube so far that are under 1000 miles are dyno'ing lower 397-408whp and the few that are over 1000 miles are dyno'ing 420-440whp. Could just be the fact that different dyno's different days etc or something...

To compare with what he did in a 18 he did run that at atco (lower elevation track which is now closed) and in 45 degree weather or another way to say -1300 da. While this isn't faster than the 18-21 I'd bet it's probably close to the same in the same kind of da which this wasn't. It's got more...

The 388 was from the gen 3 car they tested against the gen4. Either way different dyno's, different days, different weather, different trans.

It will be interesting to see how the 10 spd's do in the 1/4 given that the gen 4 is about 20-25hp higher in the 6-7.5k range than the gen3 and it's not falling off over 7k. Since that's the range the 10spd will be in the whole time.

I won't be shocked if there's not even a hp difference in the two the minor difference in dragstrip numbers there is most likely the better trans or the tires on the dh. I'd bet 10 spd to 10 spd the are also probably close to the same as this or closer. And the handling and braking differences...

The main point is the s550 and s650 look to be the same weight and we know they are the same gearing. So it most likely should be a little bit faster no matter the transmission simple as that.