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The droopy hood that makes the car look sleepy or dopey is the same (continued similar to 2018+ Mustangs), and the "unibrow" straight line at the top of the grill that continues over the headlights is also the same between those two designs. I agree stylistically they are very similar. Yes...

If the cost were comparable to a gas engine and it didn't require an enormous infrastructure change I would agree it's a good solution (to a problem that doesn't exist). I personally think the best solution is to continue with gas powered ICEs until we have an alternative solution that is...

Oops, yeah you are right. Don't know what I was thinking.

Yeah it's a pretty lazy effort isn't it? I mean the front probably took a lot of work, but everything from the front wheels back is S197.

I hope you're wrong about how many people think like you. But it's possible you are correct and we are about to repeat history similar to what happened in 1974 - with most new cars not being worth purchasing. Hydrogen and gasoline are fairly similar as far as how flamable they are. But I...

I agree that it probably isn't a Mustang, but wow would that be awesome if Ford could get the Mustang hood to be that short! I'd love to see 300+ lbs ripped out of the Mustang.

I don't need to buy a new car. My 2017 GT sits most of the time. I'll put a few thousand miles on it this summer and hopefully make it to the track a few times. I could keep it until I can't find gas for it if I don't see anything I'm interested in buying. I just bought a GR86 and it's an...

Great thread. I know I've said this before on here, but I'll say it again. The last Mustang I purchased was used. I didn't buy new because the new cars didn't seem better than a 2017. I don't like the manual transmission gearing changes, I don't like the spray cylinder liners, I'm not a big...

I could see my wife not knowing the difference, but they seem very different to me. They do have some similarities, but there are enough differences that are easy to notice. Length of the hood, the way the bottom of the rear side glass turns up, the curves at the bottom of the rear glass, the...

It's amazing how differently people perceive the same object when looking at it. I do see a little '67 Mustang (more '69 though) design in the rear of the S550, but the front catfish mouth doesn't seem nostalgic at all. I don't really see Jag or Aston Martin in the Mustang either. Maybe the...

You can be a contrarian, but most people like the look of the Challenger, just like most people dislike the M4 grills.

A great design will look amazing every time you look at it. Day one or 50 years later. '67 Mustang fastback. Dodge Challenger. Disagree. The only reason people buy them is they can afford them (and the mechanicals are still great). Those things are and will always be ugly and one of the...

It's great that the government is buying Mach Es. I've seen 2 maybe 3 on the road. Not very many are being sold. Maybe if they had named it the Bronco E. I see a ton of Bronco Sports.

Obviously no one knows the answer to this question unless they've experienced a failure of the newer type electrical braking system in whichever specific model car we are comparing to. And cars with computerized brakes are relatively new, so we don't know much about them yet. I've experienced...

No you didn't have to. :brokenheart: :curse: :giggle:

Wheel is the rim + tire.

Anything specific to share?

The TRX wheel that used a metric tire size. I remember they became really cheap once the tires were no longer available. This is an aftermarket wheel that has the same style but uses tires you can actually purchase.

Yes I remember people called those pony wheels and they were the hot upgrade in the early 90s.

Seems I struck out on this thread. Yes, both are ugly. What should they look like? I'm just hoping for choices that aren't black. I love the bronze Mach wheels.