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I don't know where the timestamp is but this interview has a good section where she talks about how clueless ford is to what people want with the Mustang etc Edit: This the part

Some people play pickle ball for fun some drive eco's

That is the point you're trying to make, though. The base model isn't as good as you think it is. The 4/6 cylinder Mustang/Camaros are lame. A mile behind the V8's in performance. Behind in modability. They sound like shit. The owners are annoying. It's a bad platform to start with. It's only...

The solution is to keep the wheels pointed straight in first. Get it right and you'll move all 3183 pounds of Civic to 60 in 4.9 seconds I care very little about 0-60. Especially for magazine numbers for bone stock cars. If it makes you happy the CTR is a tick slower than the PP EB 0-60, hey...

Again, you don't even have a test of a base model to prove that. So now you're using the stupid "AI overview" from Google? 🍿

Yes it is. Better gearing, wider summer tires, drag mode with mageneride shocks... MotorTrend's 2018 This was born out at the test track, as well. At 5.3 seconds to 60 mph and 13.9 seconds in the quarter at 97.2 mph, this is the quickest EcoBoost Mustang we've ever tested and nicely reverses a...

perfect. I knew that's what you were using I just wanted to hear you say it. they haven't reviewed a 2025 yet, as I said. Their stats that they link to, are from the 2024 review of the optioned out high performance pack car. Check it out for yourself.

so share the link (this is gonna be good)

When did they publish that test? They just started making the cars like a week ago

Also...to get the full performance of the car that C&D sent (that was faster than any other previous year EcoBoost) you have to start with the Premium EcoBoost add the high performance package to get the Brembos, performance rear end, and summer tires and 19 Add the active exhaust And add the...

You keep trying to use EB with all the performance options to judge the performance of the base model...you realize that makes no sense right?

Turns out you need to spend even more money to get the spec that Car and Driver got for the amazing 0-60 tjme

It's gone. So you can't get a "good" EcoBoost anymore. The ones all the magazines test. You get basic brakes, all season tires, no performance rear end blah blah so negating all the things they EB owners brag about being great handling blah blah

No it does not. The 32k non performance version is a sad sack of shit. imagine if you just put the 5.0 in the ecoboost, it'd be better than the 2.3 with mods. Oh wait they already make that Good day.

Durango is AWD it's like the WRX guys would talk 0-60 and then wonder why got left like they were standing still after that

The 2025 isn't even being made yet so what we we even be comparing it to? the eco is going to suck even more without it. No PP wheels and summer tires, brembos, 3.55's, paddle shifters, torsen...good luck getting your 0-60's with the base model on all seasons thank you ford for getting rid of...

It's not a bad guide. 285/35-20 would be 3.3% and you'd still be fine

3% is nothing if you're going to do 275 all around get the same size wheel around so you can at least rotate them

It'd be okay but why not go 285

They don't? You sure about that? Where did I get that screenshot of the "2.3l High Performance Package" then? Certainly not from the "build an EcoBoost fastback" on Fords website Enjoy talking about 0-60's kid...