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  1. Mustang Chief Engineer Confirms Locked ECU, making S650 tune more difficult

    Can the contents of this thread be merged with the other, the one with the poll?
  2. Would you buy a permanently locked ecu 650 mustang ?

    I'm not concerned about a locked ECU, but I am concerned about Telemetrics and Big Brother in general. If I can control what data is accessed, or, how it is controlled, OK. But by default, Ford saves this information and makes it available to others, under certain circumstances; this bothers me...
  3. S550 Bullitt Being Benchmarked - S650 Bullitt Imminent?

    If Ford is experimenting with matte paint schemes, that could be cool :like:. But not in DHG :facepalm:.
  4. April 14 / April 17 order bank open date for 2024 Mustang?

    It is. I'm hoping to let others know that, unannounced price changes can and do happen, so plan accordingly. In My22, Mach 1s experienced price changes of thousands of dollars; I received Price Protection of close to $3000. Destination charges, due to fuels, went up by a few hundred dollars...
  5. April 14 / April 17 order bank open date for 2024 Mustang?

    It's an extreme example, but Ford increased the price of the Lightning by 30% over the last year, and, twice in the last few months. We saw one or two surprise increases in MY 22 for several Ford models...
  6. Dark Horse vs Mach 1

    It will be a spirited debate, like between a GT350 and a Mach 1. At least what we know now, I don't think we'll see a significant change in performance or track times. IMO, a great driver in either car could make up for any real or perceived differences. At a previous C&C event, a gentleman...
  7. [FAKE NEWS] 2024 Mustang S650 price leak or fake?

    I started thinking of all the engineering variables; it's not going to be obvious, is it? Some measurements can be confirmed now, while others remain unknown and yet another variable is how they will be positioned within the structure of the chassis. SFI, Ford Performance and companies like...
  8. S650 Mustang Interior Hands-On Review: More Digital, Plus a Drift Handbrake! [Motortrend]

    Video games, steering wheels and where I put my phone. Disappointing article; they should rescind it, then publish something worthwhile as more details come to light. Actual purchasing customers are much more critical, and rightly so.
  9. [FAKE NEWS] 2024 Mustang S650 price leak or fake?

    At the close of MY22, the base price of a Mach 1, the car itself with zero options, was $55K; this price did not include, delivery, dealer prep or the gas guzzler tax. Add those items to the base price with some inflation and you're north of $60K. Then add sales tax and registration. ADMs at...
  10. For those upset with the new design… at least it doesn't look like new BMW M2

    That, that's not very good. BMW does seem to be going backwards with respect to styling. It's difficult to update an iconic look. I think maybe they should have another go. Its headlights remind me of the new Z. I'm not upset by the S650, but I do feel they failed in the styling department...
  11. S650 Panels not well aligned

    Panel fitment concerns and complaints are common. With new shapes, panels and features, I certainly would not expect the S650 to have improvements. I've taken Skye's fitment issues in stride; they often make me laugh. I have the typical alignment issues. No big deal. A tick off here or there...
  12. Will Dark Horse be an allocated package?

    Every Ford vehicle of any kind requires an allocation to be built. Allocations are gifted based on previous sales. Dealers who have sold more vehicles previously are in-effect, closer to the front than others. However, this presents its own problems. Taking so many orders and then later supply...
  13. 2026 GT500 with Manual Trans!?

    I love manuals, but I can't see a GT500 with one. It appears the DH will be a cast regular, not limited to two or three years. While not a 500, it's got a great manual trans. Stripped-down, "racer" Boss variant with manual? With as few electronics (including manual window cranks and no rear...
  14. X-plan for 2024 GT / Dark Horse?

    Mach 1s and higher models were also excluded from many cash back offers and other like discounts.
  15. The Dark Horse's Pirelli P-Zero Trofeo RS tires look to be the first of their kind

    If equipped, like the Mach 1 HP, I'd be prepared to swap them out immediately. Potentially great track tires, they'll be throwing so many rocks, not to mention the tram lining and being useless in cold weather, you'll want to have a new set at the ready. Further, like the HP, production might...
  16. GT or Dark Horse? (The Important Differences)

    IMO, the answer is going to depend on what your objectives are. If you're looking for something you can take out any time, possibly use as a DD, a nicely-optioned GT might be worthwhile. If you're looking for something more performance-oriented, potentially more collectable and admittedly more...
  17. Dark Horse vs Mach 1 - faster, heavier?

    What I've read thus far, performance-wise, they are effectively the same car. Hands-on reviews would begin in the Spring? At least in the first year or two, I consider the Mach 1 to be the better buy. Pricing for the DH will be greater, with the possibility of an ADM. Once production settles...
  18. Color Samples - 2024 Mustang S650: Blue Ember, Vapor Blue, Grabber Blue, Yellow Splash, Ingot Silver, Etc.

    Many are clamoring for non-metallics. I agree. Change it up. Metallics are cool and all, but to have everything metallic is a bit of a bore. I'm sure the emblems stick on, but are their divets to align? IDK. Most footage I've seen of any emblem, they have am temporary jig to help apply. The...
  19. Color Samples - 2024 Mustang S650: Blue Ember, Vapor Blue, Grabber Blue, Yellow Splash, Ingot Silver, Etc.

    Thanks for posting. Any of those colors are great. But I would like Ford to remove the redundant ones (blue, red, grey) and offer green, orange and another special or unique one. I prefer a regular rotation of colors. Not a set schedule, but change. Bringing old, enjoyed colors back and pausing...
  20. Do you like the new rear lights on S650 Mustang?

    I like the lights and the tail by themselves. Something different. But I wish Ford and the designers would have proportioned the area better with respect to the sides. The sides are quite wide, appear large and heavy. The rear, the opposite. Like everyone else, I'm still processing. The car...





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