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I agree 99.99% of the time. But for that 0.01% they can be a lifesaver. Many years ago I was driving home from a relatives house in upstate NY late at night. On the highway at 65MPH we hit a massive fog bank. Within seconds we had virtually zero visibility. You couldn't see ahead, behind or on...

And that’s exactly the way they are supposed to be used. In thick fog headlights are worthless, even dangerous. That’s when you need fogs to see where you are going.

Close, but not close enough.

Not to worry. The Coyote will continue for some time In the S650. Now the S750? We will need to wait and see.

I really dislike the tablet on my wife's Volvo XC60. It's a pain in the ass to use standing still and changing things on the move is flat out dangerous. That said here is the dashboard of the new EX90. Do you think anyones listening to me? My wife's 2021.

The only camp that Ford embraces is "sales". Majority rules. We are talking about a Mustang here, not a Bugatti.

And yet you are castigating Ford for their new braking system. Hmmm! 🙄

Maybe wait until they are tested before condeming Ford. They could be the best brakes ever. So you want to compare a car with a stock suspension to your heavily modified suspension. Yup, makes total sense. :facepalm:

I’m pretty sure they were quoting the You Tuber and not anyone with any real knowledge. But we just have to wait and see.

Honestly Dan, I could care less. But have you noticed that the mods have become more active recently. Just do not want good threads messed with or deleted.

We’ve only seen the same pics you have so no clue about the base car. That said there will likely be three wheels. The base, handling package, and carbon fiber.

No I get it. You've both been reasonable and civil. But bring SCOTUS and the ATF into the conversation is bound to set someone off. :like: And bringing in the NSA surely doesn't help. :giggle:

Guys, can we please take this part of the conversation off line before the mods have to get involved?

Sorry about that. It gets confusing. I was referring to @Veteran

This thread was supposed to be a poll (added as a new thread) as a response to the original ECU thread. Honestly I think it is a legitimate question.

Technically it is not illegal to unlock the ECU. Now if the parameters of the ECU are changed and emissions levels are increased above EPA limits, not that’s illegal.

OP didn’t realize that he could have edited his original post to add the poll. So now we have two threads from him. The mods will need to combine.

Maybe, but that would be a huge stretch. Autonomous or self driving requires control of the accelerator, brakes, and steering. It will be interesting if the electric Mustang will have these features.

And don't forget the only emissions device was a PCV plug. Ah, the good old days!

The question really is will these tuners spent the time and money to do it? I believe most will move on and not even bother. It's our loss but it is what it is.