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  1. Small details for the S650 Mustang via monthly Ford Europe Report

    I wasn't familiar with the Particulate Filters (PF) referenced earlier. Attached is an article I found helpful on what they are, where installed and their effects. Went through a few EU forums, many enthusiasts attempting work-arounds to recover a more authentic sound...
  2. (Help) First time ordering a car through a dealership…

    Early '22, I received an e-mail from Ford that my build was scheduled for production; this afforded me two things: 1. There was a near guarantee from Ford the car would be built 2. A VIN was assigned and listed in that notification The car was later built in May. If it helps towards lining...
  3. 2024 Mustang Order Banks / Configurator / Build & Price

    Being a new mark, I foresee some delays. New and old parts. New engine. New fitment. While not as severe, continuing supply chain issues. I would definitely anticipate waiting, but how much, whose to say. Some advantages though. The S650 is just starting, so even if things go absolutely...
  4. 2024 Mustang Order Banks / Configurator / Build & Price

    In MY22, there were no production limits of any kind (My comments are not considering the GT500). There were delays, due to lack of parts, but no "1 of x" builds. I have not read anything of limits in MY23 and have not read/heard anything related to limits for MY24...
  5. 2024 Mustang Order Banks / Configurator / Build & Price

    From the dealer perspective, it's straightforward. Once Ford opens the order banks, it's like visiting any other web site to buy something. Ford's pricing (dealer and customer), model, options, etc., are all there. The salesperson clicks-off what is being asked for, takes your personal...
  6. Insurance cost on 2024 Mustang Dark Horse ?

    Age, driving record, credit rating, if rolling into an existing insurer, zip code, if financing or not, if parked in a garage, are just some of the factors. In the 6G forum, someone started a thread like this for Mach 1s. People were averaging "around" 1000-1200 a year for full coverage...
  7. (Help) First time ordering a car through a dealership…

    Welcome to the forums. :clap: Inputting the order itself is a straightforward process which takes little time. Once the Order Guide is published, all the options and their codes will be available. Using the Web Order Entry system, the dealer can place an order; the salesperson will then have...
  8. Mustang EV Coupe Concept Thread

    https://www.reuters.com/technology/tap-us-government-billions-tesla-must-unlock-ev-chargers-2023-02-10/ This article came out today on that very topic. I've read of the credits on occasion. I'm left with the impression that, qualifying for and receiving the maximum credit allowed is not as...
  9. 2024 Mustang Dark Horse PRICING Leaked: $57,970 Base MSRP 💵

    It will vary by location. The final price can often be steeper than anticipated. Base Price (MSRP. But with dealer, economy and negotiations, this can vary, +/- .) Options Gas Guzzler Tax (listed under "Options") Destination/Delivery Administrative Fees (varies by dealer) Sales Tax (varies by...
  10. 2024 Mustang Dark Horse PRICING Leaked: $57,970 Base MSRP 💵

    IMO, Tesla's discounts (and the others which followed suite) are something of a one-off or unique. Times past, Tesla had the EV market to themselves; now, ever major manufacturer is producing them. Tesla's, while well-received, are getting rarer and more expensive; people were buying and...
  11. For those upset with the new design… at least it doesn't look like new BMW M2

    https://www.themanual.com/auto/bmw-heated-seats-subscription-rules-clarified/ I'm not familiar with what all manufacturers are experimenting with the concept of features by subscription. I think the concept is cheap. "Congratulations on your new car! But ya know, for the days you want to head...
  12. Hmmm…wonder how this will play out?

    I don't think it matters what the product is. This topic is akin to securing a domain name. There's the one name or term which we know, and countless variations other people or companies use. Ford applied for the term "Mustang Dark Horse", which is more specific than "Dark Horse". Note the...
  13. Hmmm…wonder how this will play out?

    https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4808:3yh9kw.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~:=PARA1$LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=mustang+dark+horse&p_tagrepl~:=PARA2$COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Qu...
  14. Hmmm…wonder how this will play out?

    I'm reading on-line that Ford has trademarked the "Dark Horse" term. https://www.motor1.com/news/595480/ford-trademarks-mustang-dark-horse/#:~:text=It%20ran%20from%20June%201,its%20bases%20with%20this%20trim. https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1136278_ford-mustang-dark-horse-trademarked
  15. 2% under invoice on 2025 Ford Mustangs @ Granger Ford!

    When considering an out-of-state purchase, I e-mailed the CO DMV for insight on any number of topics; they were very helpful, provided me with a guide, forms and contacts. If you haven't already, chat up you DMV; they might have knowledge which can make the process easier still. Best Wishes on...
  16. Start of 2024MY Mustang production is 4/11/23. Order banks open 1/14/23. Scheduling begins 3/11/23 (per Donlan and Element Fleet Forecasts)

    While it is possible that, with a new mark coming, the configurator might be updated. But based on past performance (last three years at least), I doubt it. Ford's configurator for the MY24 Mustang will most likely be late, with inconsistencies and errors. Ford doesn't allocate proper resources...
  17. Years financing a S650

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/04/share-of-car-buyers-with-monthly-payments-over-1000-hits-record-high.html I was taken aback by the idea of a $1000+ car payment.
  18. Custom Colors?

    https://performance.ford.com/enthusiasts/newsroom/2020/02/mystichrome-ford-gt.html https://www.motor1.com/news/389827/ford-mustang-shelby-gt500-production/ Custom colors are not an option. Ford produces up to 1,000+ Mustangs a day. Keeping the system running as quickly and smoothly as possible...
  19. S650's direct competition?

    The economy in general and the used car market in particular. If there is a weak economy or recession in 2023, the used car market could offer compelling buys, affording a great performance experience for the price.
  20. Years financing a S650

    Along with Credit Unions, I'd also check with your current bank and insurance company. As an existing customer, they might offer rates or terms which are favorable.





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