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Man you can’t say my arguments don’t hold water and start bringing up SUVs. Lmao. SUVs like the Bronco, Wangler etc eventually got 4 doors because 2 doors in a segment like SUVs is ultra inconvenient. You’re lumping something in there with entirely different context and not something I’m talking...

I get the point you’re trying to make but me and @BoostRabbitGT went over that. SUV you can’t compare because of context with 2 door SUVs being really impractical in a segment popular for space. The Charger did well but had a different design, transmission, and design from its coupe counterpart...

I agree with you on that. It’s just a very fragile thing to navigate for Ford. It’s one of those things where there are examples on the market, but they were done way different than how Ford is doing it. Like you said, if it wasn’t a 5.0 with an auto you would consider the GT instead, isn’t...

Well yeah that’s the point, we want to preserve the Mustang and keep it around longer right? I’ve said it before on here but the main reason is if price is the same, options are the same you’re just cannibalizing sales of the Mustang. Coupe is a niche product so you’re mainly attracting...

I think if they stick to the Mustang name it shouldn’t have a V8 at all to keep the Mustang special. If it’s JUST “Mach 4” then sure.

That’s what I’ve noticed too going to the dealer and placing an order for a Mustang. Even the salesman joking said “you want to throw a Mach E in there too?” 😂

I mean that’s the consensus across every form of media I’ve seen so far. People want a performance sedan, majority doesn’t like the Mustang name and the people who don’t mind don’t care either way.

I thought you were a Ford employee at first until I really got to talk to you. Lol.

It was also referenced in the GT500 thread but Porsche did the same thing with the 911. They both continued to update obsessively and protect the car at all costs. It’s well known that GM will kill off anything that can remotely compete with the Vette. It’s always seen as crazy, but after...

They made the car to be compliant but it didn’t have to have the name to do so. Originally it had 2 different names. You’re right. Porsche made sure to develop the 911 thing like crazy and protect it, almost bankrupting themselves. Eventually coming out with the cayman/boxter and Cayanne suv to...

I get what you’re saying. You could still do a Mustang you would just have to lean on the body style then. It’s like the situation with the Mach E, if it were a EV coupe I don’t think anyone would’ve been as upset. The Mach E in current form only shares some styling cues and a badge with the...

Well at this point it’s one of its defining characteristics today combined with its body style, accessibility (even with price), and manual transmission. As far as sports cars go it’s in rare air now, it’s a classic formula but now it’s unique. I’ve been looking to get back into one because...

Speaking of AWD. Mach 4 is a better name for a performance AWD system, like GR Four, symmetrical AWD, or Quattro. Mach 4 AWD for quicker launches makes sense.

A Bronco 4Everglades should keep the Bronco around this time. As long as it has the attitude and swagger of a Bronco.

I’m not surprised it’s around, even on its down years it outsells a lot of sports cars. That’s also the interesting thing about the name, more people hate the name than people who don’t mind it. Everyone wants a sedan. Since that’s the only issue it’s funny that Ford doesn’t change that one...

Like I was saying earlier, if it costs the same, has the same features, it just gonna cannibalize sales though. Because with a sedan you’re introducing the average consumer, and they don’t care about the name. If they want a sedan and the only one is a Mustang one they’ll get it regardless. Not...

Chevy did that car so dirty too. I had a MSG that had one, manual too.

Speaking of 4 doors, apparently TKs garage made a video with his “sources” saying a Chevy SS might be coming back. Obviously take it with a boulder size of salt because he’s usually wrong about anything other than mopar stuff. Also recently Camaro development was halted. But I wanted to talk...

Multimatic reminds me of Kar Kraft more so. Shelby was like the early Ford Performance/SVT team. I see what you mean though. Someone on the forums said it best, what Shelby used to do just doesn’t cut it today really. They have their niche still. They both still have some of that Shelby spirit...

That actually makes a lot of sense too.