Creating custom mode confusion

[BimmerDriver]

The owner's manual hardly says anything about this. I'd like, for example, have a mode with sport suspension but normal steering. Can't do it. You have to pick a "starting point" like normal or sport or track but then when you do, you cannot change the suspension or steering from what the starting point had. At least, not that I have figured out.

Any suggestions?

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[LouG]

Can you select normal with the steering wheel button while in sport?

 

[BimmerDriver]

Can you select normal with the steering wheel button while in sport?

Yes. But that kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

 

[Starship Enterprise]

I don't have adjustable suspension, but in my GT I can create up to 6 custom driving settings that include steering, Auto Start disable, traction control disable, and exhaust setting. Then you can take any one and load it as Custom which is one toggle up from Normal on your steering wheel.

I don't know if your custom settings can include a suspension setting though.

 

[BimmerDriver]

I don't know if your custom settings can include a suspension setting though.

It does, but you can't change it! It's based on whichever starting point you select.

It's not a big deal, I guess i got spoiled by BMW. On M cars you have two steering wheel buttons that be configured in just about any permutation you can dream up, including brake pedal sensitivity. My Caddy blackwing would do that too, although it had only one steering wheel preset button.

I suppose the $30K savings had to go somewhere, LOL.

 

[Starship Enterprise]

Your system must be different than a GT Premium. My custom mode lets me independently select what I want.

 

[LouG]

Yes. But that kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

You can't always get what you want, but sometimes you get what you need.
(Jagger/Richards, cockroaches of rock. May they both get a telegram from the King)

 

[jml]

For n’on-magneride cars not a big deal. However for cars with magneride, it’s a major pain that you cannot set the stiffer suspension mode (track) without deleting the driver’s aids.
And since the difference of the suspension between normal and sport is mild at best, we end up with (in my opinion) way too soft settings for magneride cars … unless you drive in track mode (which one is not supposed to do in public roads).
Because of this reason alone I ended up installing stiffer springs, and it helped a bit.

 

[Frogdog1]

It does, but you can't change it! It's based on whichever starting point you select.

It's not a big deal, I guess i got spoiled by BMW. On M cars you have two steering wheel buttons that be configured in just about any permutation you can dream up, including brake pedal sensitivity. My Caddy blackwing would do that too, although it had only one steering wheel preset button.

I suppose the $30K savings had to go somewhere, LOL.

I get the frustration and wonder why you came down to a Mustang.? I'm not impressed with the programming either. I guess I'll see how long this car stays in my garage before I get tired of it.

 

[Gregs24]

For n’on-magneride cars not a big deal. However for cars with magneride, it’s a major pain that you cannot set the stiffer suspension mode (track) without deleting the driver’s aids.
And since the difference of the suspension between normal and sport is mild at best, we end up with (in my opinion) way too soft settings for magneride cars … unless you drive in track mode (which one is not supposed to do in public roads).
Because of this reason alone I ended up installing stiffer springs, and it helped a bit.

You fitted stiffer springs to overcome a damper setting problem?

 

[BimmerDriver]

I get the frustration and wonder why you came down to a Mustang.? I'm not impressed with the programming either. I guess I'll see how long this car stays in my garage before I get tired of it.

That's a good question. I could go into all of the rationalization that got me here, but it's probably easier, now that I own the car, to compare the two. I had a G82 (latest gen) M4 (2 door) manual (3 pedals) purchased new. I now have a S650 Dark Horse manul purchased slightly (400 miles) used. Effectively, it is a new car. Both stock and unmodified.

The BMW has a better infotainment system and more available customization. The seats are better and the interior materials are worlds better (plastic, real carbon fiber, etc.) and the fit and finish is better on the BMW. It's also $25+++K more expensive, more expensive to maintain, parts are more expensive and some people think that the front end (grill) is hideous. The inline 6 cylinder engine is glorious, there is no turbo lag to speak of and it's buttery smooth. Too bad you can't hear it.

The Mustang has a world's better exhaust sound, the transmission and shifter are better, the handling is better at the limit, the rear end gives you better traction and control, the wheels are easier to clean and people don't cut you off and treat you poorly in traffic (yeah, that's still a thing) because you're driving a pretentious yuppie-mobile. The Mustang also sits a bit higher which makes it easier for us seniors to get in and out of it. Yeah, that's a thing too that you guys will eventually have to deal with.

On the track, which is what I bought the car for, the Mustang may not be faster (I don't record lap times) but it doesn't push as badly as the BM, there is some camber adjustment available (can't change it on the BM) and it puts down the power better. It also has more power. And it sounds better. The suspension is a bit more compliant and so hitting curbing doesn't upset the balance like it can in the BM.

I suffer from car A.D.D. so there is a lot of doubt out there how long I'll keep this one and when I will tire of it, but for now, these little annoyances are just that and not deal-breakers.

 

[jml]

You fitted stiffer springs to overcome a damper setting problem?

Yes, as far as I could find, there is no magneride running for the 650 yet and I wanted to lower the car anyway. The car handles much better, highly recommend if you feel your car is too « boaty ». Steeda has several options of springs for magneride that stiffen the handling.

 

[Neco]

I don't really think that this has nothing to do with price, or brand, or anything else. Letting you decide what mode you want on each of the features is just a matter of programming, it doesn't add any extra cost.

I felt that I was doing something wrong the first time I tried to tune my own mode (something that I like doing on every car) and found that you can do almost nothing, apart from exhaust noise. What kind of customisation is this?

If you set "sport" as base mode, you get sport suspension... And that's it. What if I want track suspension, with all the rest in normal mode? Why aren't all options available, so you can choose whatever you want on your supposedly customized mode? At the end, this makes this feature a little bit silly.

I even had that on a 40k Skoda, and this DH was close to 80k.

 

[smurfslayer]

IMO, the Ford 'mode customization' is in it's toddler years. Just past infancy, still plenty of development to do. A modern sport bike will have all manner of customization. Even Ducati, not exactly known for their reliability, have rock solid mode, display and customization in all manner of ways.

I think that's a good comparo because you can see that Ford has a major case of Big Corporation Syndrome or BCS. How many vice presidents are there at Ford? That's a really good indicator of how monolithic and ponderous a company is. > 2 dozen VP's, not much is going to change.

The BMW has a better infotainment system and more available customization. The seats are better and the interior materials are worlds better (plastic, real carbon fiber, etc.) and the fit and finish is better on the BMW. It's also $25+++K more expensive, more expensive to maintain,

Obviously you have a preference. My former neighbor was a beem-o-phile and I will give the car one thing: less squeaks, creaks, rattles and buzzes. Of course, he didn't have the equivalent of a handling package. And TBF, it's quieter than even the EB Mustang.

Now, that said, I didn't think the infotainment was better, just different. More responsive than my '17 Rap, about even with the '24 Mustang. Plenty of plastic in my neighbor's brand b.

The inline 6 cylinder engine is glorious, there is no turbo lag to speak of

"to speak of" being the operative phrase. you can say the same thing about the 3.5TT Ecoboost in the Raptor. But it's there.

and people don't cut you off and treat you poorly in traffic (yeah, that's still a thing) because you're driving a pretentious yuppie-mobile.

Be honest... That is well earned, and well deserved. A few years ago, I had a neighbor who had just gotten into motorcycling. He observed that his biggest on road and in parking lot foes were owners of - wait for it.. bmw drivers. He started taking pictures of their parking antics, and after effects of their lack of driving prowess. He had amassed quite the collection in about a year. There is a stark division between the peasant bmw drivers who are about 99% and the 1 percent who track the cars; the enthusiasts. The latter know of and are cognizant of the former. The former however are blissfully ignorant of not just the latter, but seemingly everyone else.

I suffer from car A.D.D. so there is a lot of doubt out there how long I'll keep this one and when I will tire of it, but for now, these little annoyances are just that and not deal-breakers.

Annoyances add up over time and they will gnaw at you. They make it easier to get to the "ok, that's enough" moment.

 

[Neco]

By the way, I love the fact that you can customise almost nothing, but you have 6 slots to save your 6 non customised profiles...

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