How do we save the mustang?

[Bikeman315]

seems like a waste of sheetmetal to me, but I've always been a pavement type of guy

How about this?

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[Rocket Man]

does have kinda a Mad Max feel to it but I still gotta pass.
it would be a cool vehicle for when SHTF, with at least a 392 if not a HC

 

[Bikeman315]

Ford recently mentioned the v8 is staying. The best option is to invest in modern v8 development like they have with lesser ecoboost engines. Develop EV and hybrid tech in tandem.

Another V8 bites the dust.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a...licks, NON AM 90D Opens, Both Subbed Last 30D

 

[9secondko]

Another V8 bites the dust.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a63442981/2025-lexus-rc-production-end-confirmed/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_cdb&utm_medium=email&date=011825&utm_campaign=nl38232867&oo=&GID=ed8c053c690b41d6e6ed99bc9c5d63000b285039b68b372c2f18ae26b22d79b1&user_email=ed8c053c690b41d6e6ed99bc9c5d63000b285039b68b372c2f18ae26b22d79b1&utm_term=TEST- NEW TEST - Sending List - AM 180D Clicks, NON AM 90D Opens, Both Subbed Last 30D

The world saw this in the 70s too.

then people got sick of it and v8s were a big hit yet again.

then again, the Japanese were never known for their v8 engines.

the v8 is literally the perfect solution for land vehicle Propulsion.

 

[Sharkman]

mic that were true, ALL manufacturers should quit trying and just make old cars with nicer interiors. Man that would be a dismal (and boring) scenario. The past had some great cars. We can buy old ones or get replicas if we want right now. Let the past be what it was. Time to press on into the future.

Well I am not saying clones of 1966, but more of the economical version of what we have now. No need for all the complicated electronics, use the keep it simple stupid(KISS)
The 2024 has gone off the charts with big video displays etc. Just a simpler version that may shave 20K off the price for those just entering the market for a car.

 

[Rocket Man]

entry level car = ecoboost

 

[Bikeman315]

entry level car = ecoboost

When the S550 arrived in 2014 the V6 was the entry level. The Ecoboost, especially the premium version was the step up. I had a ‘15 EB premium and there was nothing entry about it.

 

[Rocket Man]

i just mean from a cost perspective.

 

[highvoltage]

Done!

that’s a lifted SUV. That’s not a lifted Mustang lol

 

[Gregs24]

And all of that amounts to a whopping total of… 5% being recycled. “Nope. No problem here.”

Well that isn't actually correct is it!

What Happens to Dead Electric Car Batteries in 2025?

Try reading the complete article - yes 5% recycled at the moment, but most of the rest re-purposed or stored for future recycling. As was pointed out before there is an issue at the moment that EV battery recyclers are struggling to get enough in any one place to make the process economic. This will change in the future clearly.

EV battery recycling: As EV sales rise, recyclers are getting ready

 

[Gregs24]

Ford should remanufacture the 1966 mustangs with only slight changes and start a new generation of Mustangs with better electronics and all that hidden, just a simple AM/FM radio.
It is the ride with the air blowing your hair and simple operation.

Which precisely 3 people would buy (all on this forum)

Of course they couldn't even do that, as they would cost an absolute fortune as for example.

Mk1 Ford Escort back in production with 296bhp and modern tech | Autocar

 

[Gregs24]

The world saw this in the 70s too.

then people got sick of it and v8s were a big hit yet again.

then again, the Japanese were never known for their v8 engines.

the v8 is literally the perfect solution for land vehicle Propulsion.

In your small world.

V8 has never been that popular outside the US where size and fuel efficiency are far more important. V8 has literally no advantages over any other form of ICE engine.

 

[Gregs24]

Well I am not saying clones of 1966, but more of the economical version of what we have now. No need for all the complicated electronics, use the keep it simple stupid(KISS)
The 2024 has gone off the charts with big video displays etc. Just a simpler version that may shave 20K off the price for those just entering the market for a car.

So you are effectively saying drop CANBUS!

 

[Zig]

So you are effectively saying drop CANBUS!

Is it easier to replace a mechanical mechanism or to wade through lines of code to find a short circuit?

 

[smurfslayer]

Is it easier to replace a mechanical mechanism or to wade through lines of code to find a short circuit?

THIS!

A close personal friend, 28 year ASE Ford master tech move on for precisely this reason. his favorite tale: guy drives his Exploder to work, backs in, taps a concrete pylon. They’re always jumping out at you... he moves up, parks, sees no visible damage, goes in to work. Comes out and the truck won’t start. No codes, tests of the circuitry check out. he has s/a call the customer, he mentions the bumper. They pull the bumper, and a harness to (IIRC) the gateway module got hit, visibly ok. Remember, no DTC. He checks wire, by wire and ultimately orders a new harness to fix it. Apparently, the wiring had enough connectivity to pass testing, but not enough to actually work under load. If you look at some of the wires, you’ll understand why.

On one hand, a circuit is a circuit. It exchanges electrical ‘signals’ at varying strength. But the networked systems on modern vehicles are next level complicated. You get a lot from this interconnectivity but at the cost of intricate complexity and a system that most mechanics do not fully understand and by most i mean probably 98%. Even the Ford Engineers don’t fully understand what can happen in the field once the design is out the door.

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